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  • james's Avatar
    Yesterday, 23:44
    When I first started working with laser art and the ilda file format in 2003, I had anarchy and the software that came with the QM-32. I made a bunch of frames that had white in them. It didn't seem to be an issue then. The 3D snow man is still in in.ild and it is white.
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  • dchammonds's Avatar
    Yesterday, 22:58
    I'll guess there was was a typo or two on Anarchy's table that other scribes repeated down the line. Yes there are 1530 values in a simple 24bit RGB rainbow, but the default palette takes a detour ramp into white making the trip a little different (and slightly longer).
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  • james's Avatar
    Yesterday, 20:36
    You should know by now Dean. The ways of ILDA are a mystery to mere mortals like us. One thing I notice that is different between the 2014 ILDA palette definition and the other palettes is the definition of white (255,255,255). In the 2014 palette, white is found at index 56 and no other. ...
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  • dchammonds's Avatar
    Yesterday, 20:13
    I have peeked at this ILD doc before, but I did not look at the end to see the suggested palette info; there are some slight differences between it and Anarchy's table, but the basic approach is still the same- 64 entries (0-63) with at least one color saturated in each in a wraparound continuum...
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  • james's Avatar
    Yesterday, 15:23
    OK. This is weird.... The 2014 ILDA Spec says.... Appendix A. Suggested Default Color Palette The color palette described here was originally developed by LFI and Aura Technologies. It contains 64 colors of the full saturated hues and white.This color palette is used by most ILDA files that do...
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  • james's Avatar
    Yesterday, 14:33
    I think you need to consider the fact that the earliest software developed for color laser display was done on Amiga. And I think that had 6 bit palette indexed color. Probably the best answer to this question would come from LFI as they are the ones who created this palette in the first place....
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  • dchammonds's Avatar
    Yesterday, 14:11
    That's because the default palette is a wraparound continuum similar to an RGB rainbow.
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  • james's Avatar
    Yesterday, 13:40
    OK Dean. Here's your exported Anarchy palette compared to the Default palette built into LB. I don't see much difference. This leads me to believe that Anarchy must have been where I got it from in the first place. I do notice that there are 64 color definitions and none of them are black....
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  • Jerilyng's Avatar
    Yesterday, 12:26
    Oh I totally get I don't have the best laser out there, no offense taken at all! Maybe I'll get a nicer one but this is simple and if I can get it to work, all I am looking for.
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  • james's Avatar
    Yesterday, 12:19
    Since your laser can only make 7 colors; red, green, blue, yellow, cyan, magenta, white, you should use only these colors when you make your art from the get go. The ultimate goal of any laser frame artist is to get as much out of as little as possible. Remember, scanners only move so fast and...
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  • james's Avatar
    Yesterday, 11:57
    Well this is interesting! https://www.ilda.com/resources/StandardsDocs/ILDA_IDTF14_rev011.pdf This came out on my birthday, 4 years ago! There are some differences. I wish I could find where I got the original 63 color palette information. I think it might have come from laserfx.com.
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  • Jerilyng's Avatar
    Yesterday, 11:18
    If you look at the real Linus - he has a red shirt with black stripes ;-) I'm kind of a peanuts nut. Was looking to add a little laser show in my window (with a screen) for Christmas, and maybe a halloween one. I wonder, if i started out with these specific values way back in my illustrator...
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  • james's Avatar
    Yesterday, 11:16
    405nm is pretty close.
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  • dchammonds's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:53
    Now all I need is to get myself a blacklight laser diode!*nyancat Speaking of Linus, what's with the dark gray stripes on his shirt?
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  • james's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:15
    No it isn't. It works very well and some other developers who started their projects after LaserBoy have also used this technique. As a matter of fact LaserBoy has been used by many developers as a reference standard for all sorts of things. Another very good reason why black should be included...
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  • dchammonds's Avatar
    12-08-2018, 22:24
    Well, that seems to be a problem...
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  • james's Avatar
    12-08-2018, 22:15
    LaserBoy makes use of the concept of lit black. It's a way to bond disconnected lit segments together so that the LaserBoy effects see the bonded segments as a single entity.
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  • dchammonds's Avatar
    12-08-2018, 21:57
    Actually, it was originally a .pal file- I renamed it as rtf so it would load automatically in Wordpad but even that was disallowed as an attachment so I zipped it. As Charlie Brown would say- Auurrghhh! As far as I know, there's no need for a black entry in the table because of the blanking...
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  • james's Avatar
    12-08-2018, 21:15
    I don't remember where I got it. I'll have to do some looking tomorrow. That was like 15 years ago! Why would you save that as an rtf file? What's wrong with good old txt? You know, if you make a simple text table with a line at the top that describes the format, LB can load it as a palette....
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  • dchammonds's Avatar
    12-08-2018, 18:32
    Where did you get your default color table info? Attached is a table from an ancient copy of Anarchy and it's the same as LB up to about index 45- open it in Wordpad.
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  • NobleGas's Avatar
    12-08-2018, 16:55
    I've managed to get the control unit running; it appears the original fault may have been a loose terminal on the laser diode leads. Trying to drive this thing with BeamConstruct isn't working as it doesn't appear to use any of the standard hardware supported. There's another variant of this thing...
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  • dchammonds's Avatar
    12-08-2018, 16:06
    These files may just have too many points per frame. I would try applying the chil effect on the original Sally file, but skip the optimize step and see what happens.
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  • absolom7691's Avatar
    12-08-2018, 13:16
    absolom7691 replied to a thread Plasma Globes in The Lounge
    Even better. I will contact you around the beginning of the year to discuss tube length, color (based on what gasses you have on-hand), recommended HV drivers (if you know of any), and of course pricing. I have found that the more casual a person is about doing a complex task, especially...
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  • Dash's Avatar
    12-08-2018, 13:03
    Dash started a thread SELLING : CM 6800s For Sale in Buy/Sell/Trade
    Hi there! New member here, thanks for having me. I never thought of joining till now and I've done this whole "Laser Thing" for just about 3 Years now. Anyway I'm not 100% on selling depending on offers but I'm considering selling my CM 6800s. Just seeing everyones interest. I live in the...
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  • james's Avatar
    12-08-2018, 10:00
    Frieda is all there. Linus has some lines with palette index 63 (black) this is one index beyond the colors, actually the 64th item in the palette. You could fix this in LB. You have to go into the palette menu and change the rgb values of palette index 63 to whatever color you want. This can...
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  • lasermaster1977's Avatar
    12-08-2018, 09:54
    Yeah, that's like using mineral oil as a substitute for water. :D:D
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  • james's Avatar
    12-08-2018, 09:44
    When you're dealing with many files, zip is your friend!
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  • Jerilyng's Avatar
    12-08-2018, 09:30
    When I load these into LSG they come out blank or at least no color value is assigned to them.
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  • Jerilyng's Avatar
    12-08-2018, 09:28
    This is what I got following the steps, I attached some of the non working files. Am I missing something :-( I am pretty versed in graphics programs, I am a graphic designer, but this laser stuff is new to me, fun to try to figure out though!
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  • james's Avatar
    12-08-2018, 09:24
    Well I can tell you that neither one of your original files was made in LaserBoy. Sally.ild is tagged frame name = Ir. Zoof frame owner = PLEXICON Schr.ild is tagged frame name = LSGen frame owner = Gitle M
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