http://www.laser-man.co.uk/2006/inde...=107&Itemid=74
im sure this will cause a stir...
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http://www.laser-man.co.uk/2006/inde...=107&Itemid=74
im sure this will cause a stir...
Very nice Andy... me does like red!
....you could always ask Arctos to lisence you, so they retain the Intellectual Properties:D
Then you could use itfor commercial gain....of course they would want a hefty wonga for the lisence...or would they !*retardo
http://www.photonlexicon.com/forums/...chmentid=11918
I see you are going to be needing a place to store the smaller models now huh? I will make room. >:)
me to like red long time.Quote:
Originally Posted by KevSki
i spent to much building it, theres no hope of me being able to afford arctos's fee.
Quote:
Originally Posted by allthatwhichis
yeeh sure give me your address and ill get em posted
Nice work, Andy.
Kickass, I like it alot.
Wow! respect for this build Andy.
http://www.photonlexicon.com/forums/...chmentid=11918
Why don't you use positive drive drivers so you don't need to isolate the diodes and can CNC more precise collimator's mounts. this safes time with alignment.
thanks
cos the diodes would still be touching the alum block and could pop them by touching the block. this way i can touch the alum block as much as i want without worrying.
there is method in the madness :)
also positive drivers wernt really around when i built this
:cyclops: All I can say is WOW. :cyclops:Quote:
Originally Posted by andy_con
You are an inspiration.
its currently in bits i should really rebuild it so i can site and stare
Shit man; it is broken... that last diode on the left, "front row" looks more like an LED than a laser... O_o
I say rebuild it and get it scanning at the next lem
f**k arctos, they can come see it :rolleyes:
you are not making money from its use.
Icould always do it for you ;) I am bored and have nothing on for the winter
its not broke, its just a brought a milling machine so wana redo a few parts.Quote:
Originally Posted by allthatwhichis
i will rebuild it, but sadly my new house comes before lasers at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by badger1666
i may get it scanning before the next meet
Then why not add a block with 4 Blue diodes + prisms to the setup then you can have a 9W Purple beast :cool:
lol easier said than done.
Do they not correct the Divergence before the telescope? Most of the diodes have WAY worse divergence in one axis. So if they just go through the telescope for example a diode with a .5 x 1 mrad through the 3x would become 1.5 x 3 mrad but a smaller initial beam. Or am I missing something. Just wondering how they are able to keep the divergence to 1mrad after a 3X tele?
Larry
When you compress different sources into one beam you can get as low divergence as the crappiest source. As long as initial sources are focused to infinity and diodes are giving the best beam by themselves I can see no big problem making a very good beam.
You can do telescope and reverse telescope. One will have a fat initial beam and then slowly gets to a focus point and after that gets bigger again. The goal of this is to put focus as far as possible. And you don't really need more then 300m anyways for lasershow. Or have a flashlight effect. Initial beam is very small but gets bigger over the distance. I have to use the last way on my 1.2W 635nm because I have 3mm galvos. I tried other way but I'm getting 8mm initial beam. Doesn't fit on 3mm galvos.O_o
Really great work Andy!
Out of interest, would there be any advantage to stacking the individual beams closer together? From the photos there looks to be a small gap between the beams.
thats really really sexy...
also, doesn't the ca$io have 24 diodes? that rig uses 24 diodes... you see where this is going? *retardo
the photo is misleading.Quote:
Originally Posted by taggalucci
they are all tight together but due to the shape of the beam it looks as if there is a gap between each
the casio does have 24 diodes, but they are to far apart to combine. you would need a complete new holder for themQuote:
Originally Posted by flecom
Awesome build Andy. Just been going through your web page and and the Arctos style build really blows me away. Respect to those who build, this is way over head!
BTW on the patent front have you pulled it up and read through the wording? Arctos obviously can't have patented all beam combining otherwise no company could produce multi-diode units (which is what most diode based laser units are anyway) so they've obviously patented doing it in a certain way or over a certain number of diodes. Might be worth looking at the wording to see what is covered and what isn't covered as it may be possible to build something similar for commercial use without actually infringing the patent depending on how you achieve the combining or the number of diodes you use.
indeed they have patented combining a certain way. i believe they have patented the stacking of beams and the use of telescopics to shrink them beams down. they havent patented knife edgeing or stacking. its the combination of stacking beams with the use of telescopics.Quote:
Originally Posted by White-Light
i believe most laser companies stack but do not use telescopics. if you put a good quality lens on a 640 diode you get a 1mm by 1.5mm beam out, so you can combine many of these and still get a decent beam out. but without telescopics you are very limited on the many you can combine, so most companies (rgb and kvant) only make up to 4-5watt reds.
arctos make 10watt reds with really good beams using telescopics.
at the end of the day if you want to get real high powered reds with decent arctos 3mm beams you have to stack beams and use telescopics.
Whats the point, he as already said he aint going to sell it or use it to earn money!
yes but you made that holder! I am saying put the 24 diodes in your arctos assembly ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by andy_con
I know for a fact laserwave does on their higher power reds (not sure if any actually shipped, but the one I have does) and I am fairly certain kvant does also on their redsQuote:
Originally Posted by andy_con
oh i see, could work ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by flecom
well laserwave only make a 600mw so i suspect its not really against any patent. and kvant do and dont, ive seen a kvant 600mw with telescopics and a kvant 800mw without telescopics so...
very last page = interesting
http://www.wipo.int/patentscope/sear...26721?download
So they got nothing on patenting an RGB laser projector :good:
Did you guys never wondered why they have patent PENDING on there modules for years....
they probably "by accident" lost the patent denied letter and are still waiting....
they proberly had a shock at the costs involved in maintaining the patent each year
and thought better of it, and just leave the patent pending inplace to scare people off
The claim is here:
http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationD...C&locale=en_gb
It doesn't say whether its been granted or not so I've contacted the Patent Office just out of interest. Theres a patent number but that could just be an application number.
keep us posted .Quote:
Originally Posted by White-Light
I don't think this is some revolutionary idea. Maybe if its "pending" its because they cant get a patent. Seems I recall that you can not get a patent for something that someone skilled in the art might normally devise.
--John
Hey Andy you are completely on another level with this man.n Love it, love it, love it. Keep tinkering my friend. :cool:
if it wernt for another member on here i would have never of completed this build
Who, Phil's 24 diode build?Quote:
Originally Posted by andy_con
im not going to mention names but another uk member
Rather than risk posting anything incorrect myself, I'll just post the reply:
Quote:
Dear Sir,
Thank you for your email dated 01.11.2010
Application numbers are followed by a decimal point and an end digit. If the application gets to the publication stage it acquires an additional seven digit number (usually begining with 2) with no decimal point or end digit.
For patents begining GB or EP, you can use our patent status enquiry service at:
http://www.ipo.gov.uk/types/patent/p...ind-number.htm
In the box marked 'Publication Number' enter GB or EP in capitals immediately followed by the patent number - no spaces.
Click on 'Full Details'.
You will see the full register entry; the last paragraph before the line will say if the patent has been granted.
For other patents, you will need to visit the patent office website of the country concerned.
Yours sincerely,
John Hurley,
Information Centre,
Intellectual Property Office.
Patent pending means that it passed. They are waiting for a finalization. Which for US is 3 years.