Tips for a Newbie...

Hello, Im new in forum,

Im portuguese (sorry for my bad english) and Im newbie in laserworld / show. I'm a DJ, with my father (professional) and we want to bought a ILDA laser, Laserworld CS-500RGBV V3 Laser, my friend who sells us the material, he advised us of this laser and Mamba Black software. But I have got a Macbook and I want to work in mac but I've seen it only works on windows... true?

What software do you advise? Is to work in professional party's

P.S - Where I can download shows and animation to put in program? We have a logo, we can play on laser?

Thanks,

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Originally Posted by PepperBeatz

Hello, Im new in forum,

Im portuguese (sorry for my bad english) and Im newbie in laserworld / show. I'm a DJ, with my father (professional) and we want to bought a ILDA laser, Laserworld CS-500RGBV V3 Laser, my friend who sells us the material, he advised us of this laser and Mamba Black software. But I have got a Macbook and I want to work in mac but I've seen it only works on windows... true?

What software do you advise? Is to work in professional party's

P.S - Where I can download shows and animation to put in program? We have a logo, we can play on laser?

Thanks,

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Hello PepperBeatz!

First of all, welcome to Photonlexicon (PL for short)

What is your budget?

I think considering on your needs you are fit for either Pangolins Quickshow (and fb3)
And if your budget is quite decent then you might be able to buy Livepro with it too ;)

Just make an estimation on how much you can afford for the software, because if you really want to go professional then I guess you can't go wrong with pangolin my friend ;)
As say for example you got a really good budget and which I think you have seeing you bought a laserworld RGBV laser projector.
Then Go for the LD2000, when it comes to frames features and anything else, it's the best.

Many others can agree on this. :)

I can go to 500€ or 706.341 USD ...

And in that program i can create logo shows, animation, download animation and play with music?

Thanks

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Originally Posted by PepperBeatz

I can go to 500€ or 706.341 USD ...

And in that program i can create logo shows, animation, download animation and play with music?

Thanks

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Yes in quickshow you can all do what you want.
And you can download shows from the pangolin showportal for free, once you purchase Quickshow with Fb3
It comes with many frames packed once you purchase and the software is easy to use.

The fb3 is also very small and compact :)

you can purchase it on:
http://www.pangolin.com

They offer the best support that i've ever seen in my life.

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Originally Posted by masterpj

Yes in quickshow you can all do what you want.
And you can download shows from the pangolin showportal for free, once you purchase Quickshow with Fb3

The fb3 is also very small and compact :)

you can purchase it on:
http://www.pangolin.com

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Quickshow is free and LivePRO is paid? True?

fb3 is also from pangolin?

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Quickshow is free and LivePRO is paid? True?

fb3 is also from pangolin?

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FB3 is the hardware for controlling your laser.
You get the FB3 when you purchase quickshow.


Livepro is an extra add-on wich you can buy separate, it is more focused on live shows (and advanced).
However you can do live shows with Quickshow itself too.

Livepro is also more complex, so not a good way to start with right away, Quickshow Is all you need :)
You cannot buy Livepro standalone you either need the LD2000 or the FB3.

Ok, FB3 (Is the box that controls laser and connects to pc right?)
Quickshow (Is the program)
To create the logo's and image's i need a extra software?

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Originally Posted by PepperBeatz

Ok, FB3 (Is the box that controls laser and connects to pc right?)
Quickshow (Is the program)
To create the logo's and image's i need a extra software?

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Almost correct.


You buy all of this in one package and thats one price.
the package is this:

Lasershow Designer QuickShow
Complete package, including software and FB3 hardware.


It can be ordered here: https://www.pangolin.com/orders/

The price is: $595

Ok, thanks now i'm understanding this... but inside software quickshow we can create that logos and images right?

This works in a Macbook Pro?

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Ok, thanks now i'm understanding this... but inside software quickshow we can create that logos and images right?

This works in a Macbook Pro?

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Inside quickshow you can create logo's and images yes.

No Quickshow or any other lasersoftware on the market does NOT work with mac.

However you can use mac's time-machine to run windows, then you can use quickshow or any other software.

Ok i will go to that...

What do you think abou Mamba Black? its better? its lower?

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Ok i will go to that...

What do you think abou Mamba Black? its better? its lower?

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hmm Well that's not an easy question.
Mostly it's also preference.
However I know that with Quickshow you can do all what you need.
It's lower priced for the things you get.
Mamba is good though, however In my opinion Quickhow is better then Mamba black.

It has the best quality laser frames too.

In your case it's certainly better.
in fact yeah, now that I think about it: Quickshow is better yes.

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Originally Posted by masterpj

hmm Well that's not an easy question.
Mostly it's also preference.
However I know that with Quickshow you can do all what you need.
It's lower priced for the things you get.
Mamba is good though, however In my opinion Quickhow is better then Mamba black.

It has the best quality laser frames too.

In your case it's certainly better.
in fact yeah, now that I think about it: Quickshow is better yes.

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Ok thanks for your attention and advises

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Originally Posted by PepperBeatz

Ok thanks for your attention and advises

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your welcome =)

Also please try to get familiar with PL :)
If you really like lasers or start to like them, this is the best places to learn and share your idea's or find some extra support and guidance.

However I already think you do know that :)

Best Regards,

Pieter

thanks a lot. My future questions, when i have the software, will be... where i can get more animation :D

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thanks a lot. My future questions, when i have the software, will be... where i can get more animation :D

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You will have many animations as soon as you purchase the package.

Secondly you can look on this forums ftp server.

Which is:

ftp.photonlexicon.com

Username: plftp
password: Fup*z6k4

Do not move things there, only download from it.
Look around in maps for the .ild files
these work in all laser software.
Secondly there are some extra frames there for quickshow or mamba too.
These will only work in their own software.

and third:
This is the Pangolin showportal:
http://www.pangolinshows.com/home.html

Shows can be downloaded here for free.
You can only register when you either have an fb3 or LD2000
You will have a special serial key once you purchase Quickshow.

For example Quickshow shows works in Mamba?

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For example Quickshow shows works in Mamba?

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Nope only .ild format works in all laser software.

Quickshow shows only work in Quickshow

Mamba shows only work in mamba
Phoenix lasershow Shows only work in Phoenix lasershow

This is because they have different kind of frames and animations.
Some of these are paid for by the company to give to their clients once they buy the software.

You can use these in events and ask money, but you cannot resell these frames.
They can only be used by you and with the software it was intended for.
Do not try to break this rule as it is in fact illigal and can cause a lawsuit, However I doubt you will break this rule.
I'm just warning you in advance, just incase.

Ok, one more time... thanks a lot for the support

I forget to mension about one thing... my father is a 60 80 70 90 DJ and I want to create or play some animations with for example disco dances... singers... mirror ball, that things adequated to that oldies. Where i can download that samples or how to create that?

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I forget to mension about one thing... my father is a 60 80 70 90 DJ and I want to create or play some animations with for example disco dances... singers... mirror ball, that things adequated to that oldies. Where i can download that samples or how to create that?

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Well off course you can hand draw animations.
Or ask on the PL forums for a frames (make an request)
Sometimes if you really really need something and are unable to do so yourself, you can purchase shows according to your request.

As I said before, Quickshow contains a lot of frames too.
You can combine these frames to make your own show fast.
There are certainly frames of mirror balls, singers or disco dancers.

Let me tell you what, if there is no frame animation of say a mirror ball. I will make it for you for free.
However I can only help you on that after 12 april.

But I doubt you need my help as Quickshow surely has all the frames you need.
And thanks to the Pangolin Showportal this will only keep increasing.

Other laser software sellers like mamba, do not have a showportal.

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Originally Posted by masterpj

Well off course you can hand draw animations.
Or ask on the PL forums for a frames (make an request)
Sometimes if you really really need something and are unable to do so yourself, you can purchase shows according to your request.

As I said before, Quickshow contains a lot of frames too.
You can combine these frames to make your own show fast.
There are certainly frames of mirror balls, singers or disco dancers.

Let me tell you what, if there is no frame animation of say a mirror ball. I will make it for you for free.
However I can only help you on that after 12 april.

But I doubt you need my help as Quickshow surely has all the frames you need.
And thanks to the Pangolin Showportal this will only keep increasing.

Other laser software sellers like mamba, do not have a showportal.

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Hmm ok... :D:D i will remember past 12th April with Quichshow don't have a mirror ball

whats the program that you have to create this animation?

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whats the program that you have to create this animation?

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I use Pangolins LD2000 Pro

I also use their LC-max
And their LC-flash software

Ok, i see you're a professional designer ;)

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Ok, i see you're a professional designer ;)

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I take that as a compliment.
I have no right to speak for myself about how professional I am, I leave this judgement to others, especially depending on how good I can furfill their graphical needs when they want it
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There's always more to learn, and I'm still building my way up.
I mostly do graphics, as I really enjoy doing it and will be for many years of my entire life, I'm certain.

Good, keep training to make a excellent work...

You need to bought that design program?

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Good, keep training to make a excellent work...

You need to bought that design program?

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Yes LD2000 is something different of pangolin.
It's the best they have, but it's also more pricey then Quickshow is.

You do get tons more, but if your on a budget you should go for Quickshow, it still comes with a lot of frames.

you have 3 kinds of LD2000 packages:
- LD2000 intro $1495
- LD2000 Basic $2495
- LD2000 PRO $4995

To see what you get in this packages, you can check out the pangolin site.
It certainly has the best software available on the laser industry ;) and tons of professional frames and shows.

LivePRO is included free with LD2000 Professional. Users of LD2000 Basic
And many more, the greater version, the more you get.

If you have the money to purchase the intro I suggest you do it.
However, again looking at your budget Quickshow is good enough :)
It's certainly not cheapass or limited software and does everything you need.


I have no clue why anyone else has not yet responded to this topic other then me.
anyways, if your going to do beamshows aimed at your crowd, please practice first and learn the safety rules, as always: Safety go's first and especially the safety for the crowd should be guaranteed.

In advance: Safe lasering my friend :) I hope you will enjoy it.*warn

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...I have no clue why anyone else has not yet responded to this topic other then me....

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Awww.. Just so you don't feel lonely...... :p

I can second the vote for Quickshow.
I have Quickshow as well as LD2000 Pro and Quickshow gives you a hell of a lot of "Bang for your Buck", especially for newcomers.
There's also the fact that there are many talented users of that hardware/software on PL who can answer almost any questions you may have about it.

Other options may be cheaper but you get what you pay for (and you should remember the old adage "Buy cheap Buy Twice").
In fact, with Pangolin gear you usually get what you don't pay for too !! *retardo

Pepper.... you've been in excellent hands which is why, perhaps no one has responded. There wasn't a need. I saw your post as soon as you put it up but, don't know anything about Mamba Black or what programs might have versions for Mac's, so I didn't respond.

However, I too, will echo everything you've been told about Pangolin. When it comes to controlling lasers, content creation, support, and everything you'd want, bite the bullet and invest in Pangolin. You will not regret getting the best out there.

LOL! thanks Soforene :o

Anyways, thanks for helping out PepperBeatz, it's always nicer to have opinions from an amount of people, it makes advices more neutral.

Looking forward to see some pictures once you have software running
(whatever your final decission will turn out) :)

Hello everyone, thanks again for the reply's , I decided to go to QuickShow. Im curious about one thing, can you explain-me whats de difference of QuickShow and LivePRO?

Thanks,

P.S - Past 1 day of entering in this forum, i think this is the best forum I have registered in my all time of djing and vjing. ;)

The portuguese forums are terrible... :D:D

(forget my english) My English test's are terrible too :D:D

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Originally Posted by PepperBeatz

Hello everyone, thanks again for the reply's , I decided to go to QuickShow. Im curious about one thing, can you explain-me whats de difference of QuickShow and LivePRO?

Thanks,

P.S - Past 1 day of entering in this forum, i think this is the best forum I have registered in my all time of djing and vjing. ;)

The portuguese forums are terrible... :D:D

(forget my english) My English test's are terrible too :D:D

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Yes with the PL forum you are in the right place. it's a fun place and a very knowledge providing one too.

Livepro is only ment for live performances and does not allow any drawing.
You cannot buy it without having an FB3 or an QM2000 *which is included in the LD2000 packages*

it's entirely focussed on live beamshows and graphics only.

and way more complex.

Quickshow also alows live performance use, but many more.
It's also easier to handle and learn.

Ok... I don't go hesitate with QuickShow...

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Ok... I don't go hesitate with QuickShow...

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Haha it's ok.
It's your money to begin with, and second it's better to hesitate a few times without looking then just doing something most of the time.
Anyways I have one request:
When you are able to beam something, take a picture.
if there is one thing we like to see it's those beams/graphics =)

Ok I promest to record some live show's :D

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Ok I promest to record some live show's :D

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GREAT!
looking forward to that.