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Hi all guys!
I've just uploaded on Pangolin Show-Space site my last show.
It will be available for download a.s.a.p.
If somedody, while waiting for the download, wants to have a look.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWyG-FrNxU0
I apologize for low video quality....:o
Enjoy!:D
Steve
Showspace video looks awesome! Any possibility of exporting to QS or .ild? Pretty Please?Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Milani
Unfortunately Beyond doesn't allows me to export any frame or show to QS or ILDA format (not even QuickShow allows ILDA format export).:(:(:(
If you are not in hurry, next days (with good peace of mind) I will start to re-make "Ramses Eye" show using QuickShow, for all QS users.:)
Greets!
No Hurry! We just appreciate what you share! Thanks in advance. rodman1369Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Milani
Way cool Steve!
Steve, a quick tip, if you make show in QS format it can be imported into Beyond and then exported as Beyond format giving you a saved show in both formats. Only limitation is on what you can do in QS vs Beyond. However, it saves you making the whole show twice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Milani
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Originally Posted by White-Light
I know....Holy cow! I know...I always known this...:rolleyes:
Instead I created the show directly using Beyond... so now I have to create the show one more time from the beginning by QS.... Double work!:mad:
What a sort of jackass I am...:o
Sorry guys... I apologize
if you create the show in quickshow don't you miss out on all the new features that beyond offers?
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Originally Posted by Steve Milani
Steve Steve...Please don't think that you HAVE to create your shows in QS if you've moved on to Beyond...We would just Like to be able to project if we could. Then we could spread the name that is Steve far and wide. ;)
Sorry didn't mean to patronise you. I kind of thought you would know this with all of your experience, but it was worth mentioning just in case. Its amazing how easy it is to overlook the really simple things. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Steve Milani
BTW, I don't think ILDA export is likely because ILDA can't hold all of the information contained in the Pangolin Format.
However, you could contact Bill, explain the situation and request an ability to export to QS format. I'm guessing the reason why QS doesn't import Beyond / Beyond export to QS, is because some fundamental things such as keying have a much higher resolution in Beyond and thus there's no equivalent position for them in QS. However, you could ask.
As you can see Swami, export out between the two isn't as simple as it 1st appears because ILDA doesn't support all of the Pangolin format information and QS doesn't have all of the features / equivalents of Beyond.
Hi Steve, nice show! Thanks for sharing.
How are you finding Beyond compared to QS?
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Originally Posted by dnar
You're welcome mate!:D
Well...
It's quite difficult to me to compare Beyond vs QuickShow.....
QS is.... the essential. Sinply and clear.
Beyond is.... over and "beyond"!!!:)
Its greatest feature is: 3d animator. A great feature!
Just right in these days I'm learning to use it. It's really hard to use (to me). This is because it has A LOT of settings.
Also the "Create new abstraction" feature is quite complex.... I'm still understanding how it works...
A little boring difference I found between them is, when you create a show by QS and then you load it into Beyond, sometimes you have to "refurbish" some settings about frames into timeline.
Example: sometimes you have to re-set the FPS settings, as the frame seems to be "slowed" compared the QS version... (this is because I surelly still have to learn more about how to use Beyond:o....)
QS allows "MP3" and ".wav" both music files onto timeline. Beyond always self convert all MP3 files to ".wav" mode before to load it into timeline.
And then, as you can easily to imagine... Beyond needs more RAM memory from your computer. I have 2GB only and I'm just right to the limits to work fine!
Anyway...
I think Beyond really deserve the greatest attention from all Pangolin users.
I personally think that, talking about available features, its place is just little little under LD2000.
But this is my personal and inexperienced thought!:o
Greets!
Steve
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Originally Posted by White-Light
I agree.
All you said is true.
Beyond is much more powerful, a lot more, than QuickShow.
Apparently they SEEM very similar.... but there is a great ocean between them.
About to ask to Bill...
I don't think Bill wants to do a sort of "downgrade" of his software... He surely will answer you: "No.... It is not possible".... And he would be right.
It would means like you have Windows 3.1 and you want to load a Windows 8 program.... It doesn't work.
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Originally Posted by rodman1369
Don't worry man!
You can go asleep safe....:)
I will yet continue to create shows for both versions: QS and Beyond...
You have to be sure mate!;)
Yeah and there's a lot that's not obvious. eg from memory keying in Beyond has 100x the maximum resolution in QS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Milani
Most people probably will never consciously notice this. But if you place a long cue on the timeline and zoom right in to place a key then the difference is clear. The problem this poses for importing Beyond shows to QS is of course that if you have 2 key positions in QS, there are possibly 98 positions between those 2 in Beyond that simply don't exist in QS. So importing a show then poses a problem as to how you get QS to relocate all of those keys in places that don't exist to places that do.
There are of course many entire features that don't exist in QS as well.
Maybe you see the problem now Swami? It's not easy to down import from something so different.
Hi all guys:D
Strange but real...I found some little time to do it...:p
"Highlander v.1" beamshow for Pangolin Beyond is ready. One central projector (master) + 2 or more side projectors (satellite). 18-20Kpps scanspeed.
Here's the video (simulation)...
http://youtu.be/Wev1nsFQdGg
Any comment welcome
Enjoy you & greetings!:D
Steve
Thank you, Steve!
I am curious, when people are designing beamshows, do they design for direct viewing, expecting the audience to be below the image, or do they design for audience scanning, or use beam masks for the seating/viewing area, or just expect it to be videotaped and not have anyone actually staring at the projectors? Or maybe some of all of the above?
Here is another video....
My last beamshow...
http://youtu.be/DEI3EQtI4e8
:D
Depends on who is designing it. When I watch beam shows I put a small mask around my head so that I get to experience it to the max. Of course you can't do that with a large audience but that is what is nice about having your own personal laser projection room at home. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by tribble
Well... Everyone has his own way-to-think about lasershow...Quote:
Originally Posted by tribble
When I create a beamshow I think that people have to see it "directly", in front of them.
In my mind, a beamshow have to be a sort of "psichedelic" show.
So I divide all the frames/animations in different zone. Some of them are projected in audience, some are overhead, some are "full in front".
On top zone are the most powerful projections, using bright colors like cyan, white and green for hot beams, full power sheets, etc.etc.
Overhead I use medium power/speed effects.
In the largest zone (audience) I use the quickest effects, attenuated by B.A.M. on bottom side. I use dark colors like red, violet, blue. This is because a brigther color could "hide" other figures projected in remaining zones over it (ovehead and top zones).
I always plan my show thinking that:
- projectors will be placed at minimum distance of 20 meters from people;
- will be not not less than 3 meters from the floor level;
- divergence of my projectors is not so good...:(... from 1 to 2 mrad).
- QuickShow and Beyond have safety zone settings.
Up now, everything has always gone fine...:D
Steve! Nice beamshow!
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Originally Posted by Steve Milani
Steve...WOW!
I am usually impressed when you upload a laser show, beams or graphics. I have downloaded all of them. But, this one is really, really good. It's a shame you have a day job that interferes with your creative time!
I want to position some projectors to best project this show. It almost looks as if one would be optimal near the ceiling and in the middle of the room. What would you recommend for the best placement of the projectors?
Thanks to appreciate guys.... Thanks.:)
My last two shows, which you have seen video I uploaded on Youtube, have a particular zone settings. This is because you can see this way when looking at video simulation...;)
Projectors, as I told in my last post, are all placed at the same height from floor level: 3 meters.
The "new" zone settings that I made and I added at Beyond default zone, are labeled as following:
MASTER (main proj)
MASTER Atmosfera (atmospheric effect for master proj)
MASTER Pubblico (audience for master proj)
SATELLITE (satellite proj)
SATELLITE Atmosfera (atmospheric effect for satellite proj)
SATELLITE Pubblico (audience for satellite proj)
RAGGI FULL POWER (Hot beams - usually assigned to main proj).
all "VIRTUALSAT" (virtual projectors) are only for preview screen.
Note that some of "new" zone settings have been not used in my last shows...
There is no so great difference from default settings zones.... Just a little retouch...
Here I attach my Projection zones file. You can test it.
BEWARE!!! Alway check for safety zone and use beam attenuation (if the case...) :)
Anyway....
If somebody wants to see a good amount of video about my shows...
This is the Youtube channel of my laser-partner in Italy: David "Lightman"
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEf...LiraP5IYaz8C_w
(please don't take a care about zone scanning....video are for demonstration only)
This is his website (currently being updated):
www.laserartist.it
:)
Hi all guys!
A new Beyond beamshow from me is now available on Pangolinshows website, free for all Pango users.:)
http://www.pangolinshows.com/downloa...i1421_u179.zip
If you like to see also a preview video (simulation) here is the link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEI3...bFr9pcb3ejocWQ
Enjoy you!
Steve:)
Wow! Here is another really good one. The color mixes are unexpected and vibrant. I haven't used my projectors for a while now, but I will just to run this show. Nice job.
nice one steve!
your shows always raise the bar.
Nice one Steve. :D
Thanks guys...:)
As the music file (8,8Mb) exceed the maximum size allowed for to be uploaded on PL Forum, feel free to email me for soundtrack.
stevemilani@libero.it
I will sent you as soon as possible...
Greetings!