To all you show creators...

Can I just say it???


I fully appreciate and respect what you do because, I have neither the time or the talent to create shows (yet). But... for the love of God, when you create one and write that little disclaimer to accompany it, PLEASE give some clue as to what the music is or how to find it. Even better would be the show or song length. If it's a remix... include WHO's remix. If it's a DJ, list his name! And... if you decided to play DJ yourself and create your own special mix for the show and you put it out there for people to download an enjoy.... how 'bout your name and a way to contact you to try and arrange getting your masterpiece.

All I'm sayin....


(Can you tell I've been spending several days beating my head against the wall trying to find correct versions of songs? Aarrgghhh!!!) O_o

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Originally Posted by Bradfo69

Can I just say it???


I fully appreciate and respect what you do because, I have neither the time or the talent to create shows (yet). But... for the love of God, when you create one and write that little disclaimer to accompany it, PLEASE give some clue as to what the music is or how to find it. Even better would be the show or song length. If it's a remix... include WHO's remix. If it's a DJ, list his name! And... if you decided to play DJ yourself and create your own special mix for the show and you put it out there for people to download an enjoy.... how 'bout your name and a way to contact you to try and arrange getting your masterpiece.

All I'm sayin....


(Can you tell I've been spending several days beating my head against the wall trying to find correct versions of songs? Aarrgghhh!!!) O_o

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I hear what you are saying. And it is even more frustrating than that; there are several shows that are free for Moncha users on the Showtacle site and even though they list the songs, it's impossible to find them. I would encourage people that make songs to buy the song from somewhere like Amazon or iTubes and use that version and then say where you got it so other people can get the song. Paying $1.00 for a song to go with a show is something that everyone can afford.

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Originally Posted by JohnYayas

on the Showtacle site and even though they list the songs, it's impossible to find them.

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If you shoot Michal an e-mail at Showtacle, he'll be happy to help. He's always been very responsive when I've talked with him about certain tracks.

" 15 characters"

Yup. That's exactly the type of stuff I'm talking about. Currently, I'm tackling all the beam shows for Quickshow on Pangolins Show Space. LD2000 is all done, I'm also almost finished the Quckshow graphics shows. I've been doing Moncha shows, Fiesta Shows, Showeditor shows for weeks now. LONG frustrating process.

How on earth does one create a show... "Pirates of the Carribean" which is actually "I Don't Think Now Is The Best Time". And the instructions say, " (Audio to start at 5:06") Note: No audio was supplied to create the show preview files." WTF??

So... the song is maybe 10-11 minutes long. The show itself doesn't start until about the 5 minute mark on the timeline and then, the music continues to run a little longer than the show. So.... if I were to edit the song file and eliminate the first 5 minutes and 5 seconds of the song. Then load the show. The music will pretty much have played all the way through with the show actually starting in the final bars of the song. Now... to his credit, the author did leave some contact info.

On anther one, it's just "Lady Gaga Born This Way Remix." Uh... in case nobody cared to notice, every DJ and their mother has created a remix of Born This Way. I suppose I could rip it off the Pangolins Show Space with a digital recorder but, again... it shouldn't be this damn hard.

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Originally Posted by Bradfo69

On anther one, it's just "Lady Gaga Born This Way Remix." Uh... in case nobody cared to notice, every DJ and their mother has created a remix of Born This Way. I suppose I could rip it off the Pangolins Show Space with a digital recorder but, again... it shouldn't be this damn hard.

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If this is the 4:23 second show that Lasershowparty made, then it uses the standard 4:20 version of the song that is available on-line from Amazon or I-tunes.

I haven't seen the entire video (can't remember my Pangolin Showspace password and the website is not e-mailing me my reminder for some reason), but based on the 15-second preview I found, plus Lasershowparty's own video which he posted you Youtube, it's pretty clear that it's not a re-mix he used, but rather the original version. (In fact, back in 2011 when he first posted about the show here on PL, he said he used the regular version.)

Now, if you're looking at a different show than the one Lasershowparty made, then please send me a link to the preview and I'll try to identify the specific version of the song from that. I have several different popular remixes of that particular song (was seriously considering it for a beam show at one point), so I may be able to figure out which one they used.

Adam

There are actually two versions of Born This Way on the show space. One is simply Born The Way which is likely the one you're referring to and then there is also Lady Gaga - Born This Way Remix. Actually shawnb on here uploaded it August 5, 2011.

http://www.pangolinshows.com/preview_391.html

OK - I recognize that version. It's the Zedd remix.

Not really my favorite version, but it does have a hell of a baseline. (Sounds like a square-wave bass signal being sent to your speakers at 150% of rated power!) Be mindful of your volume setting the first time you play it...

I got it on a digital download that contained several other remixes of the same song. If you want, I can look up that ISMN number when I get home.

Adam

I need to test the show tomorrow. I may have gotten the right mix since I went looking for one of the same length but, I haven't actually played it yet.

I'll let you know. I gather you're on nights again?

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Originally Posted by Bradfo69

I gather you're on nights again?

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Yup - on nights through next Friday (July 5th). Lucky me! :( I don't even get a break in the schedule until Tuesday (just a 2 day break at that), and for my "break" I have to drive to NC to meet with Jeff and Mario to discuss SELEM plans. I'm going to be one tired little bitch by the end of all this...

At least I'm getting overtime for it!

Adam

All my shows have the music version and links to purchase sites included.

Unfortunately my shows aren't up there with Steve Milani's for quality.

As for supplying the music, the reason why Pangolin / users can't do that is because it amounts to illegal file sharing.

I do agree that every show producer should include music versions / locations as a part of the package though as there are literaly tens of different versions of most tunes, esepcially where dance music is involved.

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Originally Posted by buffo

OK - I recognize that version. It's the Zedd remix.

Not really my favorite version, but it does have a hell of a baseline. (Sounds like a square-wave bass signal being sent to your speakers at 150% of rated power!) Be mindful of your volume setting the first time you play it...

I got it on a digital download that contained several other remixes of the same song. If you want, I can look up that ISMN number when I get home.

Adam

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Humm... checked this morning. The show is 6 minutes and 18 seconds. I'm not finding a Zedd remix of that length anywhere. Even your link is about 11-12 seconds longer. Which isn't awful I suppose as long as it sync's up.

You can just use an audio capture software and record the audio from the playback on the show space.

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Originally Posted by Bradfo69

Can I just say it???


I fully appreciate and respect what you do because, I have neither the time or the talent to create shows (yet). But... for the love of God, when you create one and write that little disclaimer to accompany it, PLEASE give some clue as to what the music is or how to find it. Even better would be the show or song length. If it's a remix... include WHO's remix. If it's a DJ, list his name! And... if you decided to play DJ yourself and create your own special mix for the show and you put it out there for people to download an enjoy.... how 'bout your name and a way to contact you to try and arrange getting your masterpiece.

All I'm sayin....


(Can you tell I've been spending several days beating my head against the wall trying to find correct versions of songs? Aarrgghhh!!!) O_o

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Here's another twist that can bite one in the proverbial posterior -

Trying to sync your variable bit rate song file to a show that was originally synced to a constant bit rate song file, or vice-versa ~
The cumulative effects of those tiny little timing errors can be a real PITA to correct towards the end of some longer songs... :p

I'm not "quite" that picky yet... At this point if the song and the show both start and end at the same time, I'm becoming a happy guy. Especially when cues change on a beat. What's funny is that the mix I sourced for the Gaga show seems to be nearly correct. Maybe not against the original but hey...it at least looks like it goes together.

To Mr. Milani... a PM is being drafted for a couple more of your shows where you made your own mix. I'm seeing light at the end of the tunnel with the Quickshow beam shows... then, off to finish the graphics shows! :)

I'm really hoping to have a huge amount of stuff ready for SELEM. I already know I could fill the roughly 43 hours. Now it's also sorting out the best stuff.

43 hours??!! you're making me feel like a complete slacker. ;)

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Originally Posted by Bradfo69

I'm not "quite" that picky yet... At this point if the song and the show both start and end at the same time, I'm becoming a happy guy. Especially when cues change on a beat. What's funny is that the mix I sourced for the Gaga show seems to be nearly correct. Maybe not against the original but hey...it at least looks like it goes together.

To Mr. Milani... a PM is being drafted for a couple more of your shows where you made your own mix. I'm seeing light at the end of the tunnel with the Quickshow beam shows... then, off to finish the graphics shows! :)

I'm really hoping to have a huge amount of stuff ready for SELEM. I already know I could fill the roughly 43 hours. Now it's also sorting out the best stuff.

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Originally Posted by swamidog

43 hours??!! you're making me feel like a complete slacker. ;)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jzWRYr-b_Y



Nice work Bradford. Wasn't aware that's what you were doing. Hope Selem appreciates your efforts as that's star dedication.

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Originally Posted by Stuka

Here's another twist that can bite one in the proverbial posterior -
Trying to sync your variable bit rate song file to a show that was originally synced to a constant bit rate song file, or vice-versa ~
The cumulative effects of those tiny little timing errors can be a real PITA to correct towards the end of some longer songs... :p

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I agree. Absolutely. Set constant bitrate for MP3 files.

Is problem still is, then convert MP3 to "wav" format.
This way you will have not any problem about audio-syncro when playing the show. Tested and safe at 99,99999%.:)

Thanks...! :)

I already had enough to fill SELEM hours prior to this undertaking but, my computers and external hard drives were littered with so much stuff that I really wanted to get eveything cleaned up and consolidated. Somebody posts a show, I'm snagging it. (It's that addiction thing.) Now whether that's at home, at work, on a desktop, on a laptop, over time, things become duplicated and a mess. Music of this show on that computer, whereas the show is on that other computer, etc. It's all part of my effort to become "organized". LOL

And with having several laser software/hardware packages and collecting shows for all of them, it had become quite the mess.

How many TB/GB of shows do you currently have?

Well... I have two external 1 TB drives that I use as "masters" once the shows are all running properly. One is carried around with me and used regularly. The other never leaves my bedroom. I keep them as exact duplicates. I guess they're maybe half full or so. The directory structure is something like this:

BEYOND GRAPHIC SHOWS
BEYOND BEAM SHOWS
QUICKSHOW BEAM SHOWS
QUICKSHOW GRAPHIC SHOWS
QUCKSHOW MIXED SHOWS
Pangolin Complete Beam Shows (LD2000)
Pangolin Complete Graphics Shows (LD2000)
Pangolin Complete Mixed Shows
Showeditor Shows
LSX Shows
Spaghetti Shows
Phoenix 4 Shows
LA STUDIO
Moncha Shows
Fiesta Shows
Dunn Shows
Full Length (the hour long stuff)
etc.

Then there are subdirectories for each show with the name and song artist. I also have a lot on HD24 that aren't necessarily on these two drives.

I haven't broken down some of the other packages into "graphics" or "beams" yet but, that's part of my project.

I also have stuff for LaserMax and X-29 or whatever it's called but haven't even begun to look at them. I think I have shows for Mamba and maybe another program but don't have the software.

Holy cow!!!!:eek:

You aren't a laserist!!!
You are FORT KNOX!:D