Hey Guys,
Many inexpensive laser projectors have SD Card capability. Is this standardized to some extent? What type of files go on these cards? Can someone save a cue/show from QS and use it on one of these cards without an ILDA interface?
Thanks
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Hey Guys,
Many inexpensive laser projectors have SD Card capability. Is this standardized to some extent? What type of files go on these cards? Can someone save a cue/show from QS and use it on one of these cards without an ILDA interface?
Thanks
I can't advise on specific use of SD cards, but for general info, this: Get more. Several cheap ones are better than few expensive ones. Back up your data! CF cards are bigger, have parallel data buss like ATA disks, and the onboard controller has 'wear levelling technology' so they try to avoid lots of rewrites to the same spot. SD cards don't have this, not enough space, so they often die early.
Also, while file types might vary according to the host system, the file system is almost always FAT32 on them so you can back up files using any PC-based SD card reader. Do it, expect those cards to die, treat them as disposable, and you'll be ok.
EDIT: Easiest way to prolong the life of an SD card is to fill it up, ignoring unwanted files, and NOT writing to existing files more than first creation, and reformat when it's full, and start over. This is effectively DIY 'wear levelling technology'. >:)
And I'll suggest that any small device like Pangolin's FB3 or other scan controller likely has an SD card slot specifically to allow standalone playback with no attached computer. And likely support software to get the files prepared properly.
I have a couple cheap projectors with SD Card slots. Both of them only support .ild files. The ILDA file format is a standard, where QS files are in a proprietary format - I have never heard of an SD Card capable projector that supports QS files.
One of my projectors only supports ILDA format 0, but the other one supports other ILDA formats. However, the colors displayed while projecting the same ILDA files are different between the two projectors. So, I'd say standard implementation across multiple projectors is not something you can count on.
Also, you cannot sync music with ILDA files on an SD Card (at least in my experience).
To me, the SD card feature is more of a gimmick, and pretty useless, though your needs may be different.
There is quite a bit of information on this forum about inexpensive projectors with SD card readers and the fact that some of them only accept ILDA files containing frames that are all in format 0.
Many people have found LaserBoy to be very useful for preparing files for the SD card.
http://www.photonlexicon.com/forums/...logo-ild-files
http://www.photonlexicon.com/forums/...from-Spencer-s
James. :)
I certainly have - thanks for a great piece of software.
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I really appreciate positive feedback.
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James. :)
Laser sd card, wheel ild files of type 0.In the folder with the files ild, need a prg file.The prg file that executes the files ild in programmed sequence and speed.The prg file can be created and edited the text editor windows.Without the file prg files ild not play.
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Euler, thanks. That made sense! ;)
Hi ,yes ,it can .Make the files format is ILD.
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Originally Posted by silentgloves
Usually you can set the course PPS in big steps. The time delays are usually in 10ths of a second, which is rather course, if not difficult, for syncing to music. Good music sync needs 1/30th of a second resolution.Quote:
Originally Posted by dream
The SD card based units are designed for minimal cost, and are often more suited to point of presence displays, rather then a classic laser show set to music.
Steve
obtrusive, aren't they?
I just bought a "Full Color Animation Laser Light" off ebay. (item 221190830666) It only has an SD card slot. The manual tell me it can support .CTN format and it also tells me something about .LST files. How or can I make a show for this format? I have Moncha loaded. Any help would be great.
Thanks,
Mike
CTN=ILD type 0
LST=PRG text file
What programs can save in the CTN or ILD format. I was playing with Moncha but I dont think it can?
Thanks,
Mike
Mamba,Monkey Tools,bmp2ild,
Are you talk about SD laser ones like this? http://www.lightinggeek.ca/laser-light/carton-SD-laser
Basically those models comes with customized software which is capable to handle 10kpps - 25kkpps animations. But you can only program for simple logo or cartoon animations. Not as fancy as QS
I had a big dipper (slightly different model than in the link) just for playing around with, my first laser projector if you can call it that, before getting into the diy builds. I'm surprised they're still around, quality was marginal to say the least.
Something to keep in mind, those show cards are usually ttl, so even with an analog laser running off sd may be ttl only, needing to be connected via ilda to get analog output. Depends I guess on what they use to drive the sd. Definitely a good thing to confirm if that's a needed function.
I have not looked at the PJs w/SD mentioned in this thread BUT I will say forever some makers throw 'full color' around as if there is no definition of what that means- More often than not, most(cheaper ones) are TTL and NOT analog and therefore CANNOT be FULL COLOR- Kinda hard to take seriously or feel like dealing with any company that does not know there is a difference.
"NeXXus_prg_creator.exe"
http://www.medialas-showlaser.de/dow...tware.html?L=1
Do not understand your question about ILD files?
I live in Brazil and I speak Portuguese.I am using Google Translate.
Information formats ILD
http://www.laserist.org/StandardsDoc...finaldraft.pdf
The most commonly used format is currently ILD 5.
To convert (ILD 5) in (0 ILD) has not found a good free program.Has ILDSOS, which costs $ 30.
This is an old thread, but just in case there is still any interest, I recently bought a similar laser, called the "My Effect II", and went through the same process of trying to figure out what a CTN formatted file is and how to generate a custom animation in that format so that the laser would project it. I couldn't get the included "Laser Show v1.0" to generate anything useful using the JPG capture feature.Quote:
Originally Posted by mjt143
So, after finding out about LaserBoy, I asked the creator James Lehman for help, and he patiently explained how to get LaserBoy to create ILD 0 formatted code. Unfortunately, the laser itself does not recognize this format, it only responds to CTN formatted files on the SD card. This is where "Laser Show v1.0" comes back into the picture. It turns out that this program can read the ILD 0 formatted files coming out of LaserBoy, but ONLY if you save them using the "chil" option in LaserBoy. Once you read the resulting ILD 0 file into "Laser Show v1.0", then you can use that program to save the animation in CTN format to the SD card. Using this workaround, I was finally able to achieve custom animations with this very affordable, reasonably bright little laser! It seems to be the least expensive route currently on the market for displaying custom laser animations.
Cheers, Pete
ILDSOS is definitely a must when it comes to these laser projectors. I've got one myself - "Analogue" 500mW RGB 30Kbps, was strongly defined as analog, although from SD card it is not acting so - supports only ILDA 0 (256 colours) format with lst format for the "show list info" as stated above.
Works great as learning tool as I'm progressing through with Inkscape and converting to ILDSOS for sole purposes of logo screen and some silly stuff.
Tomorrow the UPS van is bringing me Mamba Elements v3 with its DAC, will see how it works, as laser animation is quite fun and if the ILDA interface does not work on the cheap laser, then will upgrade to proper laser =) Damn this laser stuff is expensive!