Just wondering if anyone here knows of an easy way to measure the wavelength of a laser. I have an idea in mind, I was just wondering if you have an idea! Maybe something easier than my idea...:rolleyes:
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Just wondering if anyone here knows of an easy way to measure the wavelength of a laser. I have an idea in mind, I was just wondering if you have an idea! Maybe something easier than my idea...:rolleyes:
You might try passing it through some kind of optic that catches standing waves between the glass surfaces. If it worked over a range by rotating the glass, maybe you could figure it out by the angle of the glass to the laser beam. :confused:
James. :)
Use a diffraction grating and some known sources to calibrate it? The principle of many small and cheap spectrophotometers is a calibrated diffraction grating mounted in front of a linear CCD sensor - each CCD element measures the intensity of a different wavelength. :D
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Or you can use an interferometer :)
what accuracy are you trying to obtain 2nm, 1 nm, .1 nm ?
Vis? IR ? UV?
Steve
Easiest way (in my opinion) is to use a prism and a long throw. You'll need a couple known lasers to calibrate... A Hene at 632.8 and a DPSS green at 532 work very well.
Mount the prism in a sturdy mount that won't shift, then aim the 1st laser so the beam hits the prism and refracts, making a spot on the wall far away from the prism. (farther away is better; 20 to 30 feet would be great!) Tape a piece of paper on the wall and mark the spot where the first laser's dot appears, then label the wavelength.
Now repeat the process with the second known laser. Make *certain* that the beam enters the prism at the same angle. (This is important! If the angle is off, the measurements will be off as well.) Mark the new spot on the paper and label it. Congratulations! You now have a calibrated laser frequency measurement device.
Measure the linear distance between the two spots on the paper. Now subtract the two wavelengths to get the "spread" between them. There's your "nm/cm" conversion factor.
Now install your mystery laser (again making sure the beam enters the prism at the same angle as the first two lasers), and measure the distance between the spot on the wall and one of the two known points. Use your "nm/cm" conversion factor to calculate the wavelength of the unknown laser.
It's not perfect, mind you, but if you're careful and have a long throw, it will allow you to tell the difference between 632.8 nm and 635 nm.
Adam
I used to work for a company (Optronic Laboratories, Inc in Orlando, FL) that made devices to measure the spectrum. I wrote software for spectroradiometers and they used gratings to split the light into its wavelength components. The gratings rotated so that the different light portions would be rotated onto a detector so that they could be measured for intensity.
I should have just asked, Do you want to borrow my manual monochromator ? 1 +/- .5 nm resolution
Steve
Using a diffraction grating it can be done quite accurately. You'll find more info on this on page 2 & 3 of this thread:
http://www.photonlexicon.com/forums/...elength&page=2
I would not recommend the prism method as it is inaccurate.
You could use a dichro and a meter, assuming you know the specs of the dichro. Kinda like tuning a dichro based on the angle you're hitting if from. :rolleyes: Find where it measures the highest and the angle... :confused: amd the wavelength and angle the dichro was made for... >:)
You can get a very crude diffraction spectrometer on ebay for under $40Quote:
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ok now heres how I do it for $99 to several thousand you can get a box that is called a monochromator it has a tiny little vertical entrance slit on a sealed box. Inside the box there are 2 mirrors and a geared movable diffraction grating on the outside of the box is a micrometer dial. The gratings come made for many spectrums of resolution. The best for us guys is the 1200Gr/mm 500nm blazed one. These are essentially a simple hologram. This monochromator can be tested by allowing a visible light source lets say a 632.8nm he-ne laser into the first entrance slit through a piece of scotch tape to diffuse the laser light, stronger lasers would require reflected, not direct laser light into the box entrance. Now you you turn the micrometer and the dial readout directly corresponds to the wavelength you are testing for, when and if the monochromator is correctly calibrated you come up on 632.8 nm actually reads mm the light hitting the movable diffraction grating is reflected directly out of the monochromators secondary exit slit. These slits are interchangable and the narrower they are the higher the wavelength resolution you can obtain. Now heres how the IR wavelength determination is done a small photodetector, a pin photodiode is mounted in a cap over the exit slit and hooked to an amp meter with a current source or a diode resistance checker function of the meter. As you hit the wavelength emitted by lets say an ir 808nm laser diode the needle jumps to a peak then you simply read off the micrometer and that gives you the actual wavelength to 0.1 nm. If this seems too crude a good burleigh brand used wavelength meter is going to cost about $5000 or more! Using an internet search of Google or Ebay for: Jobin Yvon or Jarrell Ash or other monochromators will give pdf pictures of these. Mine is a Jarell Ash Monochromator 18.
Happy spectroscopy determining to you! ;)
A decent used unit might cost $300-500 or if lucky $99 many monochromators setup for UV or other spectrums so read CAREFULLY before buying! Many are not manually readable and require a computer and hang on externally attachable photomutiplier tube.
Many of these with the right blazing of diffraction grating can be converted to home use with foil tape flat black spray paint and a vertical razor cut to create a exit slit. If it has a stepper motor and no manual control it will be difficult or impossible to use. People like Jobin Yvon make tiny little compact but still expensive plastic units that will cost you up to a grand or so. I have heard rumor that for a few thousand usb photospectrometers can be had but have not really seen any. Just A good laser power meter new costs $2000 plus Yipes!
So study first then buy or you will be sorry. The cheap diffraction spectrometers are sometimes accurate to 5nm. Who knows a really industrious person might be able to build a small meter with a commonly available diffraction grating.
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Ditto on the manual monochromator. These can be had for cheap/free from universities throwing out their old spectrophotometers.Quote:
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i have problematic and need help for solution
i used spectrometer spex 750M of jobinyvon. apparently i moved out the grating, when i put back and try to calibrate the grating the value wont be stable, it just kept adjusting... for example, when calibrating using mercury(Hg) in 5460 point, the delta lambda value always different on 3 times meassuring, the delta lambda 0.00, 0.80, and then 1.10
what could have happened? how would i fix this :confused:
hi joephie,
in our lab we are also using spex 750m spectrometer, we are planning to change the system from MS-DOS to windows(labview) operated. I am facing interfacing problems using GPIB.
if U have the labview drivers and programs for control of this spectrometer can U please kindly send them .
thank U very much