ExideGlow's RGB Build.

RGB laser building

Lasers, I have not ordered yet but it will soon.
purchased DT-40 PRO's galvo scanner.

Lasers:

300mW 473
500mW 532
Red laser I do not know yet. 650 or 635?

Started with, and build houses for all the laser stuff

5mm aluminum plates and aluminum angles

photos say well more than 1000 words

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haha good tools?

hell now I must run and buy a new

I will come back with more photos

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I am on track again :D

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Lookin good there, very nice work! I always love seeing peoples projectors come together, it motivates me to do some much needed work on mine ;)

Please keep us posted.

As for the red, I myself prefer 635 due to its brightness, but others like 650nm because its a nice deep red, compared to the light red 635nm :)

Wow - looks like your pop-rivet gun failed after just a few rivets! Hope it had a good warranty anyway...

Adam

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Wow - looks like your pop-rivet gun failed after just a few rivets! Hope it had a good warranty anyway...

Adam

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The holes are even drilled out for the rivets, must have been a pretty piddly gun if it broke that quick :p :D

good job, look for more pictures, :).
Best regards!
Bridge

Talk about "from scratch"... You are much more ambitious than I am. Good luck and keep the pictures coming. :cool:

I am a 660nm red man myself, but you got to have a lot of power to match a 635. Best reds I have seen are produced in home labs. :cool:

good to see that you like my project

And i think i wil buy 650 Red laser. :)

if not someone else can convince me to buy 635. hehe

here are more photos

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which dt40's did you get small mirror or big ?
if you got the big mirror one's go for a lasever 635nm they have a nice bright 5x5mm beam and good divergence campaired to some,
i am very happy with mine they are also cheaper than others
and at 635 it will be more visable than a 650

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which dt40's did you get small mirror or big ?
if you got the big mirror one's go for a lasever 635nm they have a nice bright 5x5mm beam and good divergence campaired to some,
i am very happy with mine they are also cheaper than others
and at 635 it will be more visable than a 650

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I have 7mmx 12mm mirrors :)

New Update :D

location of power supply and scanner amp

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...5012009814.jpg

holes for the scanner amp

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no nut in this project >:)

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side plate of aluminium

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power intake

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It was all for today
more coming tomorrow ;)

nice !!

Just one little tip from me, it`s smart to have the amps pointing with the POTs out..
That way you can tune them more easy without removing them form baseplate ;)

Second though , how do you manage to mount everything now when you did mount both the TOP plate and the bottom ?

It must have been better to first mount the lasers and power supply's ?


Anyway, this is looking goood !!!
Home tomorrow ? .. think I need to take a closer look :D

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nice !!

Just one little tip from me, it`s smart to have the amps pointing with the POTs out..
That way you can tune them more easy without removing them form baseplate ;)

Second though , how do you manage to mount everything now when you did mount both the TOP plate and the bottom ?

It must have been better to first mount the lasers and power supply's ?


Anyway, this is looking goood !!!
Home tomorrow ? .. think I need to take a closer look :D

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thanks Liteglow.

it is easy to remove a card if it needs to be adjusted

have measured up everything so I know where everything shoud be placed.

you can come tomorrow. if you want to see closer on the project

Solid!:)
What will be final dimensions of the case?
You will use same thickness (5mm) for optics board too?

Steve

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Solid!:)
What will be final dimensions of the case?
You will use same thickness (5mm) for optics board too?

Steve

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58 x 38 and top will be 25 cm.

yes 5mm alu for optics board. and angles to make it more stiff

hey Exideglow, the projector is looking good! I see you must have gotten the DT-40's with the larger mirrors since I see a notch filter on that board! What software/hardware do you plan on using?

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hey Exideglow, the projector is looking good! I see you must have gotten the DT-40's with the larger mirrors since I see a notch filter on that board! What software/hardware do you plan on using?

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hey DZ. thanks.

i think i will buy Mamba black and Easylase Dac or fb3 with LivePRO.

I do not know yet.

what do you think about it ? :rolleyes:

Ah, ok, was just curious. It looks great, keep up the good work and keep the pics coming! I like the rivet idea!

If the software you use has differential, you will want to use the 4 position cable for the input to the DT-40 amps. The ones you have connected in the photo with the pots are the single ended cable.

now I am very little known at lasers so I welcome any to come with tips and advice

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Ah, ok, was just curious. It looks great, keep up the good work and keep the pics coming! I like the rivet idea!

If the software you use has differential, you will want to use the 4 position cable for the input to the DT-40 amps. The ones you have connected in the photo with the pots are the single ended cable.

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yes i will come with more pics :) !.

hmm. what does it mean that I use single ended cable.
sorry for asking but I try to learn something new every day about lasers :D

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hmm. what does it mean that I use single ended cable.
sorry for asking but I try to learn something new every day about lasers

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No problem, thats one of the greatest things about this forum. There's someone on here that has an answer to just about any question laser related.

Basically, if you use the cables that attach to the potentiometer, you are using the single ended cable. Somewhere in the package, you should have gotten 2 short cables with a 4 position connector on one end, these are the differential cables.

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No problem, thats one of the greatest things about this forum. There's someone on here that has an answer to just about any question laser related.

Basically, if you use the cables that attach to the potentiometer, you are using the single ended cable. Somewhere in the package, you should have gotten 2 short cables with a 4 position connector on one end, these are the differential cables.

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Yes i have gotten 2 short cables with a 4 position connector on one end :)

i see you are mounting amps and power supplies
and there are bits of metal every where
you need to be carefull doing things like that
it only take one small metal chip to get lodged in a circuit somewhere and when you power up
you will have some expensive damage
also it would be a good idea to use some heat transfer paste on any of the metal faces you are fixing to base plate to help with keeping all the electronics cool

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Originally Posted by badger1666

i see you are mounting amps and power supplies
and there are bits of metal every where
you need to be carefull doing things like that
it only take one small metal chip to get lodged in a circuit somewhere and when you power up
you will have some expensive damage
also it would be a good idea to use some heat transfer paste on any of the metal faces you are fixing to base plate to help with keeping all the electronics cool

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i have heat transfer paste on it. :)

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hey DZ. thanks.

i think i will buy Mamba black and Easylase Dac or fb3 with LivePRO.

I do not know yet.

what do you think about it ? :rolleyes:

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There won't be many, if anyone on here, who won't recommend the FB3. Mamba has its place but if you can afford Pango, get Pango'ed!

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There won't be many, if anyone on here, who won't recommend the FB3. Mamba has its place but if you can afford Pango, get Pango'ed!

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hehe ok. :D

it is Many who have recommended me Mamba black.

It will be many more who recommend Pangolin.
:D

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It will be many more who recommend Pangolin.
:D

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ok. i go for pangolin !

how is Pangolin LivePRO conform to Mamba ?:rolleyes:

Best to get some of the others on here to explain the options to you as there are several different kits you can buy according to your uses and the licensing such as the Evaluation Kit, the LA Studio Freak kit etc.

Also, I think the FB3 kits come with Live Quick as standard not Live Pro. Live Pro involves a small upgrade fee. That said the standard software package is still one of the very best around and most on here think it exceeds any other similar packages, hence the recommendation.

Live Pro is awesome BTW. I've not personally used it but have had it demonstrated to me by another member on here.

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There won't be many, if anyone on here, who won't recommend the FB3. Mamba has its place but if you can afford Pango, get Pango'ed!

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I can completly support the FB3, I loved mine!

I personally think the FB3 is significantly better, for one, it has DMX on it, you can store many shows on it, you can integrate it into your projector and connect with USB, it's smaller, and it comes with really amazing software for pretty much the price.

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I can completly support the FB3, I loved mine!

I personally think the FB3 is significantly better, for one, it has DMX on it, you can store many shows on it, you can integrate it into your projector and connect with USB, it's smaller, and it comes with really amazing software for pretty much the price.

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sounded very good!.
but what exactly is DMX?

I think it`s wrong to Compare FB3 against Mamba !
Because FB3 don't have the ability to make Music Show synced with laser-show (with the software that follow)

But if you should have a Pango software that can do the same as Mamba.
You need LD2000 !
And then you need to use allot more $$$ compared to mamba..

I'm Pangoed... I have the LD2000 and can very easily recommend it... Excellent product, excellent support, and IMO the best out there...

This is just my opinion though.

On a side note, that is an excellent build you have there ;)

--DDL

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sounded very good!.

but what exactly is DMX?

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DMX stands for Digital Multiplex.

DMX512-A is the standard serial communications protocol for use in stage lighting.

So the FB3 having a DMX connector means it can be controlled via a lighting desk or software. Which will make it much easier to sync with the rest of the lighting system that is in use.
Also allows a long cable run to the FB3, far greater than you could relistically acheive with an ILDA cable.

I am pretty clued up on all things DMX if anyone needs more information.

Oh, and while I am here, the build is looking very nice.

Onge (André)

Hi.. looks good.


Have you thought of 640 for red....

Most seem made in Europe.. you get good brightness and a good colour red.
Its also a balance between the nice "thin" beam of the 660nm jobs and the usually super "fat" beam of the 635nm.
Of course dollars come into it.
660 beam about 3mm diameter
640 beam about 4.5mm diameter (multi beam in higher powers)
635 beam about 5-8mm diameter

Makers of these are like..Kvant, Arctos, HB-Laser etc. There are rumours that Bridge at Laser Wave has something on the way. His Chinese units tend to be above average. I have used CNI in green, Blue etc.. and Laser Wave in green .
I have the new Kvant 640 red really bright at 950mw.. however these multi beam jobs are a bit like an "association" of beams doing there thing to make a dot (more like a "splat" really) but there seems no easy way to get red "up there". (other than dollars and many beams)

Re software... well of course I would say Pangolin... but if your serious look at the LD200 series of boards. (at a cost of course but not too bad really IF thats the type of performance you need).. Never heard anyone complain yet.

Cheers:):):)
Ray
NZ

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I think it`s wrong to Compare FB3 against Mamba !
Because FB3 don't have the ability to make Music Show synced with laser-show (with the software that follow)

But if you should have a Pango software that can do the same as Mamba.
You need LD2000 !
And then you need to use allot more $$$ compared to mamba..

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Isn't that what Live Quick / Pro do?

Pro syncs to beats and takes cues from it.

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Isn't that what Live Quick / Pro do?

Pro syncs to beats and takes cues from it.

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LivePro CAN sync to beats but it does not have to - it can cue to many other triggers. I think what they are refering to is the ability to authour a complete choreographed show set to a music time line. Mamba can do this as can Showtime as part of LD or LD2000 (AScan many more applications). You cant set livequick or LivePro to play a track and play exactly the same cues over and over. They are really for different show enviroments/applications.

Rob

But FB3 can do this with showrider

Why do people always forget the LAfreak package?

Exactly! I've made three such shows, myself.

Ok thats very true but the suggestion was that LiveQuick and LivePro could do this - and they can't!

Rob

Thanks Rob. I was sure FB3 could do it but I wasn't sure which app it was Live XX or Showtime.

lasers Ordered :D:D

300mw green
250mw Blue
And Dichro kit RGB

can hardly wait to get them :D

One more side complete

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Mats
Thats looking mighty fine there. Its neat yet sturdy - I cant wait to see those lasers mounted in it :)

Rob

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Mats
Thats looking mighty fine there. Its neat yet sturdy - I cant wait to see those lasers mounted in it :)

Rob

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thanks Rob !.

I think you need to send the lasers in super Fast Express shipping. want the lasers today :D:D:D hehe.

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thanks Rob !.

I think you need to send the lasers in super Fast Express shipping. want the lasers today :D:D:D hehe.

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Maybe he should make it personal delivery, then he could look at the case! :D:D:D:D:D

ok time for Update !!

I ordred some lasers from laser-wave / Laser-wave.co.uk.

Here is what i ordered

200mW 473nm
300mW 532nm
Dichro RG kit

and here is what I get !!!!!!!

320mW 473nm
500mW 532nm
I must not forget RGB Dichro kit !
No extra charge for this !

:D


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this is what you can call good service ! :D:D:D
Big Thanks to Rob And Bridge at laser-wave and Laser-wave.co.uk :)
More review coming when I get the lasers :D

More Pic's :D

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...this is what you can call good service ! :D:D:D
Big Thanks to Rob And Bridge at laser-wave and Laser-wave.co.uk :)

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I agree. Absolutely.
Rob and Bridge: very special guys. Great men.:)

Looking at pics....Your projector is growing up very well... Good job.

b.t.w.... I'm waiting my package from Rob me too.... a new 250 @650nm and a new 250mw @473.....:D My upgrades are next to become real.....:p

nice progres!!!

i love these build topics!!!!
It gets me inspired!!!!

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