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    Question Help me set the price (2 (+1) halfnotes)..

    Hello Guys

    As i have been flamed before on this forum for advertizing something for more than you thought it was worth, i would like your suggestion for a price tag, if i am to sell my two (3) halfnote lasers on here..

    What i want to sell is two good and working Lightwave Halfnote lasers in very good condition. They are currently in use in this project: http://www.photonlexicon.com/forums/...LaserMAC-build but i am thinking of rebuilding the movingheads for more power..

    Both halfnotes are working perfectly, and i will include a very good psu for each them, much better than the original medical nonsense psu.
    The PSUs are based on the DSD-500 controllers, which are state of the art switched mode current controllers, with analog modulation beyond 10khz. (special option).
    http://www.o-e-c.de/images/stories/E...00/dsd_500.pdf
    -These have a price tag of about €1000 each.
    For temperature control there is a nice Omron controller with display etc. for the baseplate/diode temp. and a wavelength HTC3000 controllers for the KTP temperatures.
    http://www.teamwavelength.com/produc...uct.asp?part=6
    Everything built with safety shut down systems in case of temperatures/currents outside limits etc.

    At sale, the lasers and all electronics for them will be removed from the movingheads and mounted on an aluminum plate, for integration into the buyers own system..
    For the laser with the lowest amount of power, i will include an extra pump diode. In the other one, the pump diode has just been replaced (at a professional laser shop with cleanroom).

    If someone buys both lasers, i will also include an extra identical laser and psu, that was damaged in shipping, but has a lot of good parts and an original medical psu + a new diode inside.
    http://www.photonlexicon.com/forums/...-cry-(halfnote)

    I will also include a couple of AR coated and quite expensive lenses for making a telescope for each of them, if you would like better divergence..

    The lasers are putting out around 2.2 and 1.8W respectively.. (the 1.8W will include the new diode).


    So - what do you guys think this is worth ??

    Thanks in advance for your help !

    Regards, Simon

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    I sell brand new CNI 2W for 2199 euro, I think a CNI modulates a little bit better than a halfnote.

    So I think a little bit below 2000 euro sounds fair to me.

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    2200 for a 2W CNI including PSU and everything ? That sounds like a good deal ?

    However i dont think CNIs modulate better, given that the halfnotes include the very good DSD500 drivers..
    And all the spares must be worth something too...

    But something like €3750,- should sound reasonable for the 3 of them, then ?
    That is quite a bit of a loss for me, but whatever - if it gets them sold fast, i guess thats okay...

    Thanks !

    Regards, Simon

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    Check with LaserBen and/or Smogthemog. They were both involved in the sale / trade of a halfnote laser recently; surely one of them can comment on an appropriate price for what you have.

    While I'm no expert, I was under the impression that these units were on the high end, so to me your prices seem a bit low. I certainly would not have compared them to a CNI, but as I said, I could be mistaken about the quality of these lasers. (I've never owned one myself.)

    Adam

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    Half-note lasers aren't even on the same planet as CNI in terms of quality. They're a ring cavity with lots of stability bells and whistles.. I'm sure they still exhibit some small instability when being directly modulated, but they're closer to Coherent or Spectra-Physics in terms of cavity design. I wish I had the $$.. every time a killer deal like this comes along it's at a time that I can't afford it.

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    Sure the halfnote is much more high quality design, but if someone wants to build a 2W laserpojector for showuse he will look at options like a CNI. So if you want a quick sell I would not go over the price of the CNI.

    And about you cant afford it, its all about prioritys

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    Valid points. For show use, the beam specs are not overly important. A CNI will do everything that a half-note will do in terms of laser show functionality. It's somewhat like fine wines, though. The cheapest wine will get you drunk, yet people will spend dearly to drink wine with sophistication and good flavor/smell.

    As you say, it's about priorities. For me, my priority is my family, first and foremost. I wish I had $4000+ for these lasers, but since I don't make money from lasers they take a fairly low position on my list of expenses. Chinese lasers are my only option in terms of high-powered stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by buffo View Post
    Check with LaserBen and/or Smogthemog. They were both involved in the sale / trade of a halfnote laser recently; surely one of them can comment on an appropriate price for what you have.

    While I'm no expert, I was under the impression that these units were on the high end, so to me your prices seem a bit low. I certainly would not have compared them to a CNI, but as I said, I could be mistaken about the quality of these lasers. (I've never owned one myself.)

    Adam
    The broken laser, that i will incude for free if i sell them both, is actually the one from the Laserben/smogthemog deal.. i traded a whitelight for it with smogthemog, but when the halfnote arrived, it had most likely been dropped by the postman or something, because some of the optics had been broken off their mounts, even though they are mounted very rigidly..

    Yes, i also think that these lasers are much better quality than CNIs. They are after all from one of the top 3 american laser companies. (and also the psu/controls are in a whole different league than CNI.) But i also know that people dont have a lot of money to spend at the moment, and even though i am including a whole lot of extra bits, they are still used lasers..

    €3750 should hopefully mean that they go fast..

    Is this forum the best place to sell this stuff, or should i try Ebay (having never tried to sell anything on there, not even sure if i can do so, being from Denmark).. ?

    Thanks !

    Regards, Simon

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    I think you will have better luck selling them on ebay, on this forum are mostly laser hobbyist.
    Hobbyists mainly do not have that kind of money.

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    Why would you tear your moving heads apart ?
    You put tremendous effort in putting them together.
    And there will be extra effort for extracting the halfnotes and putting them on the aluminium plates.

    I think you might attract more potential buyers when you leave them intact.
    If people want to spend this much money, they're probably professionals. They will be looking for return on investment. The economic value of a working projector is just far greater.

    Given your 'luck' in abroad trades I suppose you'd prefer to sell them locally. In that case, the number of potential buyers of a pair of plug and play movinghead projectors in your vicinity is much greater than 2.5 oem laser modules.

    If you sell the projectors locally you could make 1 year of warranty and service part of the deal.

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