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Thread: Quickshow vs Livepro and a few other questions

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    There's lots of similarities, and yet lots of differences.

    Is it compatible with the FB3?
    It is if you order LivePro USB which is the version specific for FB3

    Will I really want to use an FB3 with Live Pro?
    I can't answer for you, but it's what I'd rather use.

    You mention running multiple shows with LivePro. It's not quite like that. Think of it more like a DJ console with 4 decks or 'tracks' which can all play different things. You can then play combinations of tracks as you desire.
    So you might have flat scans and liquid sky stuff on one, tunnels and triangles on another, fast finger beams on another and mirror ball bounces and beam targets on the fourth. you can then switch tracks in and out as needed. You can then lay over colour effects or other effect types on each track. And thats just the simple part of it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by norty303 View Post
    Think of it more like a DJ console with 4 decks or 'tracks' which can all play different things. You can then play combinations of tracks as you desire.
    So you might have flat scans and liquid sky stuff on one, tunnels and triangles on another, fast finger beams on another and mirror ball bounces and beam targets on the fourth. you can then switch tracks in and out as needed. You can then lay over colour effects or other effect types on each track. And thats just the simple part of it...
    OK, that makes perfect sense to me! Now I get it! Thanks!

    I should have clarified my question about using it with an FB3. What I meant to ask was whether the FB3 was a good match to LivePro, but based on your answer, it apparently is.
    Last edited by LEDpaint; 03-29-2010 at 12:27.

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    You can then map different cues to different projection zones as well, so if track 1 is currently playing animations it can be set up to show them on a scrim or screen whilst your beams on track 2 can be set up for the audience area and your static beams set for the restricted airspace a few feet over peoples heads... and again, mix and match as desired.

    If you've seen a screenshot of LivePro then out of the box (with the Playtime workspace anyway) the cues are set up so the first row of cues are going to track 1. The second row are colour and FX cues for track 1.
    Row 3 is cues for track 2, with row 4 the colour and FX cues for track track 2.

    And so on for the remainder rows and tracks.

    You can set the cues to cycle through automatically for each track with the beat of the music, so track 1 every 8 beats, track 2 every 16 beats, etc
    Once you have the tracks changing like this how you want, a show can be put together 'real time' simply by enabling/disabling and pausing/unpausing tracks.
    If you give some thought to your cue setup, you can always have a nice sweep or fan ready to drop with any breakdown in the music, likewise a fast strobe is only a button push away to go with that big drumroll....

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    I was wondering the same thing myself, thanks for the detailed explanation. I ended up buying used fb3 w/ livepro madgadget had up for sale here, I'm excited for it to arrive to start getting acquainted with the software. Was second guessing myself a bit whether I made the right decision with regard to the extra cost of livepro, but from the sounds of it is by far worth it.

    Also bought set of dt40w's tuned to 30Kpps, which just arrived today. They're back in the box for now, but I must say I'm really impressed with the build quality. It's my first set of real scanners though, previous laser was a big dipper f-01 with stepper motors . I'm also surprised how small the mirrors are compared to the steppers, I'm guessing aligning the beam is going to be a challenge .

    So much for the budget though, I can't afford any lasers now , but all in good time. I do have a few lower power modules laying around from various projects I can play around with in the mean time.

    Cheers, and thanks for the help

    Miles

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    Dont forget Livepro got a learning curve.

    Like Hugo said, it got as many buttons as a spaceshuttle.

    I think Insanity got a nice tutorial DVD to get you started.

    But I think a Midi keyboard with some sliders or rotaries is needed to get the best out of livepro.

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    Too many buttons and too less sliders and pots.

    For cue selection its better to use the mouse or a touchscreen.
    You need allot of sliders and pots to contol all the effects, and some buttons to start, reset pauze a track.

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    Have couple of suggestions for MIDI controllers? I have a simple one used for DJ'ing, but it's all pots and sliders. No buttons at all. Can't remember the model or manufacturer at the moment.

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    Cool

    Several people (myself included) have had great success using the Novation Remote Zero midi controller with LivePro.

    Adam

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    That's good to know. I've often considered a remote-sl keyboard for music production but could never justify it for just that as it's a pretty light hobby for me. But now I can justify it I assume the remote-sl keyboards would work just as well, minus a bit of portability ?

    Btw, the fb3 arrived today. Powered up livepro and I can easily understand now how you say there is a learning curve Really looks like amazingly configurable software though, can't wait to get better acquainted with it.

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