Some FREE iShow Frames

[JohnYayas]

Yes it does. An ILDA frame is art. Now, if you use an ILDA frame of the IBM logo to promote your business (as in, "we sell computers too, even though we're not the real IBM"), then IBM has a case and will go after you. But just having the logo in place as a display example of what a laser projector is capable of? No way.

Case in point: Google "IBM Logo Art". You'll get dozens of web pages that prominently display the IBM logo despite the fact that they have *NOTHING* to do with IBM. Now, if that is infringing upon IBM's trademark, why haven't they done anything about it? Because they know that they can't... It's covered under fair use.

Here's a quote from the publaw site that explains trademark fair use as it applies to authors:

Number 3 is the key. So long as you do not imply sponsorship or endorsement by the trademark owner with your use of the trademark, you are in the clear.

Adam

I don't agree with the way you are interpreting it but that is fine. For one thing, a logo is art to begin with. So copying it and saying that it doesn't infringe "because it is art" isn't going to ever win a case in a courtroom with a decent lawyer. I sited specific cases where companies said right out that in order for their logo to be used, permission must be granted. The fact that these companies have not gone after people using their logos doesn't not make it OK. Saying that people speed all the time doesn't make speeding legal.

[ElektroFreak]

First off let me say that I'm here only briefly, I just want to give an update to this thread only. I'm not "back" or anything like that.. so don't get your hopes up.


After being repeatedly contacted by ILDAs legal team and after being harshly beaten about the buttocks with a wet noodle.......


oh wait..............


I never was contacted by ILDAs legal team, nor have any of the other MILLIONS of ishow users out there in the world that I'm aware of.. and HMMMM I wonder why?

They must have had a hard time finding contact info for us all after Karl Rothweiler (Laser_Wizardry) the local "rat"/"informant"/"narc" reported to them that "A group of hardened criminals have infiltrated photonlexicon.com, and have committed horrible crimes against humanity by reposting links to frames that were allegedly stolen by the Chinese years ago, and subsequently SOLD online to MILLIONS of end-users throughout the world (who are now also hardened criminals by proxy, and who also now deserve the harshest possible punishment) and it just made me so mad.." *sniff*

Better luck next time Karl!

And heartfelt best wishes to all other PL members... hope everyone is having an excellent 2011/Year of the Rabbit so far!

Laterz and bye.

[masterpj]

It almost looked like you are provoking.
Just don't reply on this and also never post frames that you didn't make or didn't got permission for.

End Im not coming back to this topic.

[Laser Wizardry]

" 15 characters"

[masterpj]

Electrofreak carefull with the sentence you just said.
I hear very unpleasant story's of people who though the same.
But the internet contains more information about yourself then you often know.

[ElektroFreak]

Slander and Libel can cause serious legal problems.

My attorney does not take these words lightly.

You are screwed if I choose you to be screwed.

Good luck with that Karl.. You want to battle, then lets battle already.. that's my whole point by posting this. I'm not submitting to you or your "accusations", not now and not ever. You've got no case against me bro, and you and I both know it. I'm not at your "mercy" as much as you'd like me to believe I am. And stating the truth about your being an informant isn't libel or slander as long as it's true my friend.

Anyhoo, this is all just a waste of breath anyway, and contributes only more drama. I'm done here. Any further interactions between us Karl can be conducted through MY attorney. Just let me know via PM and I'll provide the contact info.

[dsli_jon]

Hey EF! Welcome Ba...c.. uh,...

I'm not "back" or anything like that..

..Oh, bummer!... well, anyhoo, as long as you're 'not here', was just wondering - how did you get your Variance so-fast?? (...you know, the one you must-have for being able to perform those public concert shows you were yarning-about performing, over at the 'pointer-place', there... nice fx pix / video, btw!...)

I mean, I'm just curious, how you got it thru, so-fast, cause, like, all the rest of us, it seems, are *still* just having a devil of a time getting approvals thru in a timely-manner... I'd suuure luv to know yer sekrets!

Chirp, chirp!
j

[Laser Wizardry]

" 15 characters"

[ElektroFreak]

That is not what this forum is for.

You're absolutely right.. but don't accuse me of being a thief if you're not prepared to have your feathers ruffled. That's just common sense.

Now I'm out of here for good. As I thought, nothing will come of all this sabre-rattling anyways.

[dsli_jon]

Now I'm out of here for good....

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHOOOOOOOHHAAAAAAHAHAHHAOOOOOOHA HAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!
Oh, man that is the best one I've heard in a long time!... wow, Thanks, Man! hooohee *sniff*.... Ahhh, e....

Tell ya what - I'll 'put in a good word for ya', with the Janitor about your 'wish'... ... I just can't imagine what we'll all-do with that-much 'peace and quiet', if you get yer wish-granted...

Really is a shame you can't just learn to 'take' what you always dish-out, here, EF... I'm sure, long-term, you could contribute a lot, here... ...I mean, ie: we've GOT a great ever-present 'Laser-Safety' Resource, here now, ya know? Over time, it's gonna need more fillin' up / expansion, n stuff...

...'n I'd sure *really* especially love to know how you got yer dern Variance, so-fast! You must really be awesome at that, man...

ojalas hasta nunca jamas...
j