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    Question I have a few questions about ions

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    Ive heard a rummer that you can get yellow out of an argon laser..is this true? Because Id like to try it if it is!!

    Next..lol
    Is there a Xenon laser?

    and one more..lol
    after looking at the spectra of gas discharges argon has many lines of red...why cant this be used..

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    Quote Originally Posted by djmatt View Post
    Ive heard a rummer that you can get yellow out of an argon laser..is this true?
    No. If you're getting yellow, you either have Krypton in the tube, or you've got some other gas contamination in there. Argon doesn't lase yellow. Period.
    Next..Is there a Xenon laser?
    Yes. It's an excimer laser and it lases in the UV spectrum. They're used for LASIK eye surgery, among other things.
    after looking at the spectra of gas discharges argon has many lines of red...why cant this be used..
    Don't confuse the bright line spectra with the lasing lines. Remember that it's the Ar+2 ion that lases. That is, you have to strip two electrons completly off the atom before it will lase. The bright-line spectra arises from simple electron exitation of the base atom, but you can't get a population inversion that way. (By the time you've pumped enough engergy into the gas to get a population inversion, you've also created an abundance of Ar+2 ions, and it's these ions that undergo stimulated emission.)

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    Default Correcto..

    ...but if yer really looking to get Yellow out of an ion (mixed-gas, of course...) I can deffo 'hook ya up'...But, it's gonna cost ya, Pal!

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    For the most part Buffo is right, it is NOT a standard line.

    However, in a special lab setup:

    Argon Yellow:

    550.22 Nanometer (2D*)4P-3D3 ---> (2P*)4S-3P3 Transition.

    AR(III+) ION

    Ref, CRC Handbook of Laser Science and Technology,
    Volume II, Gas Lasers 1982 Edition, CRC Press, Boca Raton, FL.
    Ed by Marvin J. Weber

    Normal visible AR is AR(II+) Ion, so for yellow, you have to knock off a extra electron, just like a UV Argon. Which means driving the tube to near meltdown to get it, or having a very long tube, driven very hard.

    Yes, Xenon lases, however unless pulsed, it tends to rip the tube apart from the heavier ion mass. It has massive gain in the green, blue and violet, plus red and yellow weak lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by king4quarter View Post
    20grand for you dj matt...

    btw love the signature
    Hahaha!! I think thats a cheap one..lol!!

    Thank!!

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    Ah now I think Im starting to get my head around the inner workings of how the ions work and I found it really awesome of how it all comes together to make the amazing colors
    I still say out of all the ions Ive messed with the mixed gas has to be the best!!
    I was bummed out when I got my omnichrome 643 that was DOA... But I do have the optics so it wasnt a total loss... Anyone want to buy some optics..lol!!

    Ok now that Ive started taking notes..lol
    whats the best whitelight laser?
    Yes theres a reason Im asking..lol not just to sound dumb..even though I feel like it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by djmatt View Post
    whats the best whitelight laser?
    'Over-all' - hands-down, the Spectra Physics 168 (imho..)... I'd bet it would have been 'Spocks' choice'...

    However, for 'road-gigging'-ruggedness / durability, the Coherent Purelight is nothing to shake a stick-at...



    ..and - why, look!! there's one FS, about 3/4 of the way-down this thread!!! http://www.photonlexicon.com/forums/showthread.php/13267-SAVE-THE-WHALES!...-(jk...-)-N%FC-Goodies-4-Sale...?p=174134#post174134

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    I have to say the spectras are a work of art to see, the 2 sp 165s are just beautiful!!!
    and they seem to be lighter than the coherant thou..
    Isnt the 168 a whitelight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by djmatt View Post
    Isnt the 168 a whitelight?
    'tiz if ya make it...

    Got a great Purelight you can have, tho....

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    Ah true... I think you can make any Ar or Kr laser a whitelight if you have a swiss bank acount

    Im holding on to one day being able to get one

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