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[dnar]

Normally, I would post a video of Monty Python doing the fish dance. But alas, I am out of humor....

[mixedgas]

That quoted conversation was disgusting.

There is a interesting line in Isaiah about a Island being shook and flooded. But this is NOT Karma. No one deserves a quake, a flood, and a meltdown in the middle of winter. Some parts over there that were hit still have snow.

Whatever your faith, pray for them. If you are not of faith, feel for them.



Steve

[Zoof]

that kind of tasteless ``comments'' going on elsewhere should not be repeated, the whole event is shocking enough. I admire the courage of the persons working near the reactor to limit the repercussions for not only Japan but for the globe.

[hobbybob]

Check this website about the Fukushima Fifty, the fifty brave man and woman that are giving their lives as we speak to save Japan and probably the rest of the world.

Those people are brave enough to stay and get radiated all day trying to cool the reactors. 50 people that are giving their lives so that others can live. Kinda reminds me of the thousands of people called Liquidators in Chernobyl.
People that went in only wearing thin overalls and paper mouthpieces.

I think those people are HEROES !

Check:
http://fukushimafifty.com/
for links to other sites about them...

[Lased]

LOL.. If this is karma for the Japanese, one must wonder what we (the US) have in store for us one day..

Japan is in a very sad situation indeed, almost as sad as the complete lack of wisdom, intelligence, and general education of the morons in those quotes.

Check this website about the Fukushima Fifty, the fifty brave man and woman that are giving their lives as we speak to save Japan and probably the rest of the world.

Those people are brave enough to stay and get radiated all day trying to cool the reactors. 50 people that are giving their lives so that others can live. Kinda reminds me of the thousands of people called Liquidators in Chernobyl.
People that went in only wearing thin overalls and paper mouthpieces.

I think those people are HEROES !

Check:
http://fukushimafifty.com/
for links to other sites about them...

I agree wholeheartedly. The Fukushima 50 ARE the Liquidators of this nuclear disaster and are heroes of the highest magnitude.. but as for saving the whole world I don't know if I'd go quite that far. There's FAR too much hysteria going on in the US especially about the plume of radioactive material that is drifting away from Fukushima. At first glance, one might think that paranoia is justified.. but once you remember the nearly 3,000 atmospheric nuclear test detonations and the orders of magnitude more radiation that THEY released into the air over a span of 18 years.. many of which were detonated on US soil in Nevada.. that paranoia has no basis in fact. The dangerous fallout will be limited to a geographically small area surrounding the reactors.

If you bought Iodine pills, the best thing you could do with them is send them to Japan where they could actually help.

[Laserman532]

haha i just had to laugh....all of those ignorant flag waving "Remember Pear Harbor" "karma is a bitch" dipshits will be the first ones to send their 80 year old grandmother or 12 year old daughter through a TSA full body scanner to keep them safe from "terrorist"...laughable...

FDR forced the Japanese into a corner, provoking them to attack to bring the US into the war because FDR knew that the american public would not support the war effort unless we were attacked. I know...conspiracy theory....

sound familiar???

lets see...We could look at religion if you want to, does that sound like the actions of a compassionate God? Pray for them??? Might be contradictory to the big mans wishes, he might not like that.

I'll just toss the whole mess into the "shit happens" category. It sucks...

[Things]

I was shocked when I saw that pearl harbor image, it's disgraceful. 3/4 the people talking about it wouldn't have even been alive at the time, so they have no reason to talk shit about those poor people in Japan.

If this tsunami had of hit the US, I bet their attitudes would have changed dramatically, and it would have been probably one of the biggest disasters in history, so they should just be fucking happy it didn't happen to them.

It's a touchy subject for me as well, it's not like Japan brought this on themselves. People need to get over the past and move on with the future, people like them are how wars begin ...

If it wasn't for Japan, everyone would still be living on Morse code!

I hate watching the tsunami videos, as there is no other way to see it but a "unstoppable wall of death and destruction". You can hope to get a warning fast enough and evacuate (Which most of them didn't), or try and leave at the last minute and get smashed into the side of another building.

Really hope Japan gets back on it's feet quickly after this.

[drlava]

Idiots are everywhere, and sometimes are easy to locate with keyword searches (Like that facebook "pearl harbor" search above).

Luckily that image only represents the bottom scrapings that whoever compiled it could dredge up, it's almost insulting to post it other than the goal of raising awareness that idiots, reactionaries with a minute and skewed worldview exist (we already knew that, thanks), and, apparently, the best place to find them is on facebook!

[dsli_jon]

Wow. That page is almost beyond-words-revolting... May all those "people" and any-else with such attitudes, get the same, *back* when they are in similar-straits, at some-point in their lives... this scale of disaster will happen in this country - again - some day... ie: can you imagine if Manhattan were hit with a 7-8 pointer? Eeek...

ゴッドスピード、日本！
j

[buffo]

the fifty brave man and woman that are giving their lives as we speak to save Japan and probably the rest of the world.

Japan (and the rest of the world) will be saved regardless of the actions of the 50 workers. The damage to the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear facilities is going to be an economic disaster, and it *might* have some long-term environmental consequences for the area immediately surrounding the site. However, from a public health standpoint it is not, repeat *NOT* a crisis.

Also, the 50 workers in question are not "giving their lives". They are receiving more radiation than they would have normally, yes, but that exposure is still within the internationally accepted standards for workers in the industry for this sort of situation. The 5 deaths at the plant so far were not, repeat *NOT* due to radiation exposure.

The news agencies have spun this event into something much larger than it really is. That is terrible for two reasons:
1) it completely overstates the risks of nuclear power, sowing fear and doubt among the general public, and
2) it detracts from the real tragedy, which is the incredible toll in human lives lost.

Remember: the earthquake and subsequent tsunami has claimed an estimated 18,000 lives. Only 5 have died at the nuclear plant, and they were not killed by radiation. So which issue is more important?

In all, this event is not unlike the 3 mile island accident that happened here in the US back in 1979, in that the core (and indeed, the entire reactor) was a total loss, but no significant amount of radioactive material was released. This is going to be an expensive clean-up, but that is all.

Seriously - forget about the damn reactors. We should be worrying about the incredible loss of life, and the tens of thousands more who are now homeless. Remember that in some of those tsunami videos there was SNOW falling. How'd you like to be homeless when it's snowing outside?

Kinda reminds me of the thousands of people called Liquidators in Chernobyl.
People that went in only wearing thin overalls and paper mouthpieces.

Chernobyl was *far* worse, by every measurement you can think of. No containment, a fire *in the core*, large areas of contamination rendering habitation impossible, and over a hundred thousand people re-located, not to mention the large loss of life and increased cancer risk due to acute radiation exposure. By comparison, the event in Japan is trivial.

Regarding the "thin overalls" they wore at Chernobyl, that's all you *can* wear. It's to protect your body from picking up radioactive debris, which would otherwise stick to your skin and continue to give you a dose even after you left the area. It's the same gear worn everywhere in the nuclear industry.

There is no "shielding" you can wear to protect yourself against a full-body dose when in a high-radiation area. By the time you surrounded yourself with enough lead, you'd be so heavy you wouldn't be able to walk. The best you can do is wear an outer set of anti-contamination clothes to keep any debris off you, and get the job done quickly and get out of the area.

In the case of Chernobyl, the workers entered into areas that had extremely high radiation levels, and though they only remained for a few minutes, that was enough to seal their fate. By contrast, the exposure the workers in Japan are receiving are several orders of magnitude lower, and it will not cause them any real harm. (There is a slight chance that they might have a 1% increase in cancer risk, but you can get that from living in the mountains too.)

For the record, I was a nuclear-trained submariner, and I was also an Engineering Laboratory Technician, which means that while I was in the Navy, my primary job was to work with radioactive material. We wore the exact same suits that the workers in Chernobyl did. (Which are also the same suits they're wearing at the reactor site in Japan.)

Idiots are everywhere, and sometimes are easy to locate with keyword searches (Like that facebook "pearl harbor" search above).
Luckily that image only represents the bottom scrapings that whoever compiled it could dredge up, it's almost insulting to post it other than the goal of raising awareness that idiots, reactionaries with a minute and skewed worldview exist (we already knew that, thanks), and, apparently, the best place to find them is on facebook!

I agree, but it still makes me sad to know that there are that many idiots here in our country. I'd like to think we're better than that, but apparently not...

Adam