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    Default How To Fix My Mistake - Making Laser Projectors Legal

    So I happened to buy 3 1Watt Lasers (that I was told were FDA Approved, and lied to) and now found out that I cannot use them. I want to make these lasers legal. I am familiar with working on lasers as I have done so in the past. I just don't know where to start to make them legal. Somewhere I read something about filling out 7 hours of paper work and a variance form (I am familiar with the variance form).

    Basically, my goal is to rebuild these lasers so that they are in compliance with the FDA's standards. Can anyone offer any suggestions or lead me in the right direction with what the FDA requires in the laser build to be in compliance? Money is not an issue, however I would like to keep these builds and not have to buy new ones.

    I live in the US and have a background in electronics and computers.

    -Eighty8

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    what projectors or company?
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    I'm sure Marc @ ctlasers can assist as he's done many many variances.

    I too am interested to know what brand.
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    I will list them all:

    Company: Meierlight China
    Location of Purchase: 深圳市, 廣東省
    Model: ME-LAS III
    Description:- 1w FULL COLOUR RGB ANALOG ILDA stage light lasershow30k: red 650nm@500mW, green 532nm@200mW, blue 445nm @300mW
    Additional Info: Bought 2 of these



    Company: TE-Ligthing
    Location of Purchase: Guangzhou/Maine, USA
    Model: TE-RGBV500
    Description: 500mW RGBV DMX512 ILDA DJ Laser stage lighting 20K. Lasers:aircooled DPSS Diode Laser 200 mW /650nm (Red) TTL modulation>10KHz, aircooled DPSS Diode Laser 100 mW / 532nm (Green) TTL modulation>10KHz, aircooled DPSS Diode Laser 200 mW / 405nm (Blue Violet) TTL modulation>10KHz
    Additional info: I replaced the Blue and Red Diodes with equivalents because they burnt out. I noticed one of the diodes was incorrectly soldered.

    Company: Shinp
    Location of Purchase: Shenzhen
    Model: DL-55
    Description:25mW+25mW@532nm,120MW+120MW@405nm, Green/Purple, 100mW+100mW@650nm,,120MW+120MW@405nm, Red/Purple

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    Quote Originally Posted by eighty8 View Post
    So I happened to buy 3 1Watt Lasers (that I was told were FDA Approved, and lied to) and now found out that I cannot use them. I want to make these lasers legal. I am familiar with working on lasers as I have done so in the past. I just don't know where to start to make them legal. Somewhere I read something about filling out 7 hours of paper work and a variance form (I am familiar with the variance form).

    Basically, my goal is to rebuild these lasers so that they are in compliance with the FDA's standards. Can anyone offer any suggestions or lead me in the right direction with what the FDA requires in the laser build to be in compliance? Money is not an issue, however I would like to keep these builds and not have to buy new ones.

    I live in the US and have a background in electronics and computers.

    -Eighty8
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    the meierlight projectors i have seen also do not have the right type of keyswitch

    you need to have a keyswitch where the key is non-removable in the on position

    after you meet the safety requirements you need to file a product report on it (the long form)

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    88-

    1) how long ago did you purchase these projectors? if it wasnt long ago, i would return them. the process and what you are going to need to do to get these certified and varianced are going to be VERY long and daunting process.

    2) requirements for class 4 projectors (which all of yours are).

    Key switch (non removeable on position)
    case intertlock(s)
    emission indicator(s)
    remote "kill" switch
    Beam attenuation
    beam shutter (not required, but VERY good to have)
    PROPER labeling. (not just a danger sticker here or there).
    manual reset
    power on delay

    3) once the above is accomplished, you then need to do your PRODUCT REPORT

    4) Variance Application

    5) Laser Light Show Report

    Then you will get your approval and be on your way.

    Or, like i suggested, i would return these to china and DEMAND your money back.

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    Marc, what is the "Beam attenuation"?
    Also, how would you go about setting up a delay on a DIY blue? Mine seems to come on very quickly compared to the Laserwave red and "no sure named" green I have in my DIY Series rig.
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    Gottaluvlasers, do you know any keylock wich is not really big? Ive seen these big keylock cases wich i really cant install due to not having enough room.
    I already want a remote kill switch and autokill if ilda signal is lost.
    With case intertlocks you mean the case cant be opened without a key?
    Power on delay...no idea how to accomplish that...i can always set the show file to play 3 secs later...but imo a crappy savety measure.
    And manual reset? Is that supposed to be pushing a button and entering key to restart after using the killswitch?

    But i dont think we have the fda on our ass anyways here, but still want to have a bit of savety. I have close to none now.
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    Either return to China, do it yourself, or you could pay me to do it all for you... I would suggest getting the ILDA Breakout board from StanWax Lasers... That will make the least work for you...

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