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    I suspect some people are grossly overestimating the size of this festival and the stages involved.
    I would think someone with a half decent fogger (who knows about placement) and 1 or 2 1w-3w lasers (of any colour/s) would be just what they're looking for.
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    You are using Bonetti's defense against me, ah?

    I thought it fitting, considering the rocky terrain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by White-Light View Post
    See the problem with the request?
    ..Don't forget the close to 10 hrs (..in Total, between Report-prep / follow-up / questions / clarifications, etc) for the FAA 7140-submission... a Co's time is *not* 'free', especially when said-7140 is being done exclusively-on behalf of said show...In this-instance, the 'budget' would be blown even before anyone rolls out the door...
    So, yeah, sorry - Show-for-beer / tix:

    @ archanotechnician - Can you arrange to 'bag a Sponsor', for the laser-show portion? For a large-scale Outdoor event / to be impressive-enough, you'd need a *minimum* of $9.5 - 10.5K - for one nite - subsequent-nites would be less, but Marc is prolly-about spot-on.. anyone telling you otherwise, is probably also selling snake-oil...

    If you do-find 'someone' that is willing to do this, for 'less', some advice: Make them *show-you*, their Valid / Current (letter from CDRH, stating that 'last years' Annual-Report was filed / their Var is extended thru Dec. 2012..) US Show Variance, a 'positive LOD' (letter of determination..) from the FAA, saying the show has 'no-objections' from them / this 'airspace', and, adequate Liability-Insurance from the Co. naming you / the Event producers as 'added-insured'... The risks are not worth *any* amount of 'discount', otherwise...

    Dos (experienced..) centavos...
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    ^^ Sorry I forgot its vastly easier for people to get out and do shows here on a shoestring than in the States.
    Jon, do you need to do the FAA is the beams are terminated?
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    You are using Bonetti's defense against me, ah?

    I thought it fitting, considering the rocky terrain.

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    Heya Nort -

    Quote Originally Posted by norty303 View Post
    Jon, do you need to do the FAA is the beams are terminated?
    One of those 'fuzzy-areas'...*technically*, if it's not 'open-air', you shouldn't have-to... and, some of the Regional-specialists will say (depending, ie, if it's in a 'wide-open area', or, yes, Outdoors, but, say, under a 'covered-roof' / tent, w/open-sides, etc..) 'Nah, don't bother...we won't do a study, etc' - cause it's also a good-deal of work, for them, once you submit... *However*...

    ..especially if it is in an 'unenclosed-area' - even-if all beams are well-terminated, etc - and by 'well', I mean, walls, chimneys, etc.. 'tree-banks' can be-iffy, unless super-dense.. It is still the 'smart / best-practice / CYA'-route, to-file... that-way, IF - IF - a 'stray-beam' should somehow-ever venture-past a tree or beam-stop, etc, ie: while you're focusing mirs, etc.. well - you 'filed', and CYA'd... ...Helps cut-down on the chance of those nasty 'SWAT / FBI-smackdowns', too...

    ..additionally, you 'build-up a relationship' with them / 'portrait' of responsibility, so they 'get to know you' / Your Co. and think highly of you, for being so astute... Even-if they, internally, choose not to do a 'full Aero-study / issue a NOTAM', etc, well, again - you've CYA'd, by-filing / letting them at-least know 'what's going on'... ..it also helps 'boost the image' of the entire Pro-Sho Industry, as-well... helps the 'cause' if / when we ever have to go and 'fight for our right to paaaar-tay'...

    ..These are things you 'learn' over the years...
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    Archanotechnician:

    I'll do it for $19,995 cash plus gas from WA.

    Sorry to under bid you Marc......

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    Quote Originally Posted by norty303 View Post
    I would think someone with a half decent fogger (who knows about placement) and 1 or 2 1w-3w lasers (of any colour/s) would be just what they're looking for.
    IMO I don't think a 1w RGB or anything other than maybe a 1w green would be acceptable for an outdoor event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phredy1 View Post
    ....maybe a 1w green would be acceptable..
    Mmmm, I suggest adding about 39-more W's...

    IMHO....

    cheers..
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    IMO I don't think a 1w RGB or anything other than maybe a 1w green would be acceptable for an outdoor event.
    You're entitled to your opinion, but see these...



    Remember, if it didn't work out right, I doubt the laserist concerned would have to worry too much about damage to reputation, because I doubt they're a big show co to begin with.

    My advice is to check out your local free party/techno/psytrance sound system crews and see who they use or have on their crew that does lighting/lasers. Or look at other small fests/events that you know have lasers but no budget to see how they are doing it.
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    You are using Bonetti's defense against me, ah?

    I thought it fitting, considering the rocky terrain.

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    And because I can only do 1 vid per post...

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    You are using Bonetti's defense against me, ah?

    I thought it fitting, considering the rocky terrain.

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    and same again...............

    Frikkin Lasers
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    You are using Bonetti's defense against me, ah?

    I thought it fitting, considering the rocky terrain.

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