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    Quote Originally Posted by planters View Post
    Very nice! And, all custom frames...Wow! How many cases of Coke did you need to finish this show?

    The show matches well with the music. I know that was said before, but it can't hurt to say it again.

    Well done.
    Thanks for the compliment. quite a few actually.
    Great thing is the music is licensed by everest laser. meaning i can include it.

    Secondly i have 3 more of these well timed shows upcoming at the same quality level.
    and again: all custom frames and effects, all new again and no re-use
    Start from scratch every show to get the best brightness and smoothest effects.

    here is short sneak peak recorded secretly on the lem
    Start at 0:16
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvWc5...tailpage#t=16s


    Created by josh loh (joshlohmusic)

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    Hey guys,
    My lasershow sale site just opened up.
    To celebrate: price Reduction on the beamshow: Beyond her garden.
    promo discount:
    89.25 Euros or 112.32 Dollars Including tax!
    75.00 Euros or 94.39 dollars excluding tax!
    The music is licensed by us and included with the show.

    Requirements: one RGB analog projector running at 30kpps.

    Currently paypal is only supported.
    But in a few days we support all other payment methods.
    If you cannot pay with paypal right now: Please contact us and we will handle the payment manualy.

    Be quick! This promotion only lasts half a week!

    The site is: http://www.everestlaser.com/lasershowshop
    You have to register to buy.
    If you have pangolin: please fill in ur serial of QM and FB3.
    If you have LSX: Fill in the serial that your LSX gives.
    If not: select other and leave serial fields empty.
    Last edited by masterpj; 06-21-2012 at 12:11.

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    Quote Originally Posted by masterpj View Post
    You have to register to buy.
    why?

    Quote Originally Posted by masterpj View Post
    If you have pangolin: please fill in ur serial of QM and FB3.
    If you have LSX: Fill in the serial that your LSX gives.
    what is the purpose of this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaNeK779 View Post
    why?



    what is the purpose of this?
    Standard practice for show artists selling their shows - the shows are locked to specific controller serial numbers so they can't be redistributed freely...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuka View Post
    Standard practice for show artists selling their shows - the shows are locked to specific controller serial numbers so they can't be redistributed freely...
    Yes but he provides ilda also I beleive.
    or he said he would months ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaNeK779 View Post
    why?

    To agree with my terms of service to provide some extra security to the ones creating content.
    Same go's that we dont take responsibility for the shows we make thats why.

    what is the purpose of this?
    You have to agree with the TOS to buy a show, hence the register, its protection for the creators of shows including when other people will be able to sell there shows.

    You shouldn't blame me for wanting to give just an extra protection measure to the ones creating.
    I have seen loads of shows that are originally for sale being traded for free on lems just so people can obtain more shows.
    And these shows are being used commercially!
    The show protection also acts as a reminder to let you know you should not share this show as its a for sale show.

    Another reason why we prefer you to register: buyers deserve support, we give it.
    What kind of support on shows you may ask?
    Setup problems in case of multi projector shows perhaps, issues with projection if so, issues with content on the show, little changes desired in a show (don't overdo that latter service option).
    We want a client to be happy when he has his show, we dont want complaining on forums, if theres an issue we want to be able to support you as the buyer to the best we can.
    Same will go for the creators, we help them, judge their show, offer fixing to the show if needed and more.
    It's a personal service not a automatic lasershow spitting factory.

    Regarding the price height: do one little gig and you just earned your show back, do more and you even made profit of a show that you didn't even have to make! .

    What im doing here is offering a little protection towards our content creators while the people that are more on the go travel laserists can just earn money and use some of that money to buy new shows and prevent their company/bussiness shows from being repetitive.
    Both parties make profit, everybody wins! and our creative side can also profit as those are the vulnerable guys in our industry, they are often not good at selling their products to a client.

    Quote Originally Posted by polishedball View Post
    Yes but he provides ilda also I beleive.
    or he said he would months ago.
    Yes Ilda is provided.
    Though the show is MUCH more compact in it's native format, making it easier to load the show in for instance LD2000, hence we then prefer you fill in your serial number.
    also for the learning ones underneath us it also gives you an insight how someone made the show, so there is another advantage to having the native format.

    Ilda's go trust based and also sharing trading and distribution of an bought ilda would be breaking that TOS.
    I think it should be kinda apreciated that I not decided to ditch support for ilda, dispite it offering no security on my end other then the Terms of service.

    If a client is unhappy with a show we are doing our best effort to fix the show a little bit, but we always recommend to check the video and requirements first before a show is being bought.
    We do not give a refund to a bought show as someone might not remove the showfile when asking for a refund.

    Let me know if this clears it all up.
    Last edited by masterpj; 06-21-2012 at 07:55.

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    Quote Originally Posted by masterpj View Post
    Regarding the price height: do one little gig and you just earned your show back, do more and you even made profit of a show that you didn't even have to make! .
    Just cause you brought it up, your pricing seems on the high side. Rupert and Dunn are both about $100 USA a show module. With hour long shows being in the $900~$1500 range.

    I know I can't drop almost $400 at regular price for some show, no one (or very few) will ever know the music too anyhow.

    A gig needs more than one show
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    Quote Originally Posted by polishedball View Post
    Just cause you brought it up, your pricing seems on the high side. Rupert and Dunn are both about $100 USA a show module. With hour long shows being in the $900~$1500 range.

    I know I can't drop almost $400 at regular price for some show, no one (or very few) will ever know the music too anyhow.

    A gig needs more than one show
    Regarding dollars, sadly we live in the netherlands.
    Tax is as high as 19% here so that makes prices go pretty fast.

    Lasershows aren't products from china and people do need to live you know.
    Considering you are living in belgium we are already talking euro's.
    You dont do a show in the netherlands for less because a lasershow in kenya or america is cheaper because of the valuta they use.. thats rediculous.

    I'm willing to play around some more with prices but.
    I am going to assume with rupert and dunn we are talking beamshows here.
    Graphics shows aren't common and thats because they take A LOT of time, electricity, knowledge, experience to make.
    On top of that this data costs me bandwith and more, and the list go's on and on.

    Just look at an graphics show of avi and the pricing that comes with it (if you are lucky to buy it) and you will understand what I mean.
    But even short animations can take a lot of time if they have a lot of detail, these things can be reused and makes your company stand out.

    Though I have indeed considered your price comment here I decided to lower the price of content a little bit to make it look more fair.
    I am not dropping further though in price, remember we need to eat too, im not doing this for pocket money.

    Regarding a gig needing more then one show, yes but a lot of gigs contain liveplays or a switch between pre-programmed and live.
    Also do consider whatever your software would be, most of the time they come pre-packed with shows u can always throw in and from there build up.

    On top of that mention rupert here: you do are aware we might be selling his shows soon?

    If you register on the site I can see that you are interested in one of my products and it would be wise to do so.
    I do not deliver show support to people who are not registered on my site, because they cannot buy a product even.

    Regarding your last point about music not being known.
    Here's the thing: we licensed it, it's special.
    Do people have to know the music to enjoy it? Do you want to go out, painstakely find the music or buy it yourself on itunes just to figure out its not in sync?
    In fact at some places you need a license to play back certain music and yes i'm serious there are places where your required to pay to play certain music.
    Last edited by masterpj; 06-21-2012 at 12:04.

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    I kinda feel in general that prices are kinda low, (this comming from a guy who wants to program most of the time as a job ) But when I sit down for 10+ hours to write a show, making all new cues, all new movements, etc. I want it to be worth it for all that time and effort. if the show sells for $100 that's $10 a hour, and when when you factor in everything that doesn't leave much for the programmer in the end. Though most people who write shows for a living work with companies like Pango or Showtacle or you know, all the bigger guys, and they get paid by those companies what they deserve, (at least from what I can see) but when it comes to a freelance situation, these programmers are kind left in the dark. pun slightly intended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe View Post
    I kinda feel in general that prices are kinda low, (this comming from a guy who wants to program most of the time as a job ) But when I sit down for 10+ hours to write a show, making all new cues, all new movements, etc. I want it to be worth it for all that time and effort. if the show sells for $100 that's $10 a hour, and when when you factor in everything that doesn't leave much for the programmer in the end. Though most people who write shows for a living work with companies like Pango or Showtacle or you know, all the bigger guys, and they get paid by those companies what they deserve, (at least from what I can see) but when it comes to a freelance situation, these programmers are kind left in the dark. pun slightly intended.
    ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    What he just said

    Also just because someone wants to drop as low as 100$ for a show.. fine with me.. doesn't mean im dropping to the 100$ range or lower.
    Stay realistic please.
    Thats like asking for a projector of a 200$ and expecting it to be full color ilda TTL and with 30kpps scanners.

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