Help for laser show DiY

[juanma666]

Sorry, I am a fan that I begin and I look for information, excuse for my expression, I don't dominate their language.


To begin basic laser show, besides the modules laser that I already have.
Do they serve these galvos with card ILDA, or do I need something more to connect to the PC and the system HI-FI?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI...ht_2137wt_1270

I only want simple graphics, tunnel, beams, diffractions and not very more, but to be able to adjust to the music's rhythm.
If they are not adapted for this, I appreciate information of what I need.



Best Regards.
Juanma.

[JohnYayas]

That driver board looks like a combination of a scanner amp and a DMX board but the description doesn't mention DMX. If you just want canned graphics and effects you can by with a DMX setup and a cheap DMX controller and DMX freeware. If you want to do any laser output programming you'll need an ILDA setup with an ILDA DAC and software. White-Light will soon be here to recommend QuickShow.

[taggalucci]

...recommend QuickShow.

Yes, great option

[dsli_jon]

Hi Juanma -

excuse for my expression, I don't dominate their language.

What is your native language? Si es español, yo te puedo ayudar...

j

[juanma666]

Thank you for the answers.

dsli_jon, indeed my language is Spanish, I live in Spain (Barcelona) and here I don't find information on the construction of projectors laser.
For that reason I decided to write in this forum (using a translator). He/she will come me very well their help in my language and he am very grateful for their offer.
Next step to expose him/her my doubts.

I have two modules laser, one of 532nm 50mW and another of 635/638nm 200mW

http://www.ebay.es/itm/Modulo-diodo-...ht_3498wt_1166

http://www.ebay.es/itm/635-638nm-200...ht_1754wt_1166

Later on I want to also buy a 445/450 of about 200/300mw to couple it to the projector.


With them I want to build a homemade projector. My budget is enough first floor, for that reason I put the link to the galvos of EBAY.
I need to know the necessary components for the construction of the projector. Please tell me what I need and like I must connect it, so that the laser goes to the music's rhythm.

I put a link to these galvos for if he/she believes you that you/they are more appropriate and/or improve that the previous ones. Not I seek to make anything complicated as for graphics, but if I have the possibility to program some, it would be very well.

http://www.ebay.es/itm/20Kpps-HightS...ht_3540wt_1399

I also have a sound card, CAKEWALK UA-25EX, would like me to know if it can serve as DAC, to connect between the projector and the system Hi-Fi.

http://www.roland.com/products/en/UA-25EX/



Thank you.
Sincerely:

Juan Manuel Montiel.




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Gracias por las respuestas.

dsli_jon, efectivamente mi lengua es español, vivo en España (Barcelona) y por aquí no encuentro información sobre la construcción de proyectores láser.
Por eso me decidí escribir en este foro (utilizando un traductor). Me vendrá muy bien su ayuda en mi idioma y le estoy muy agradecido por su ofrecimiento.
A continuación paso a exponerle mis dudas.

Tengo dos módulos láser, uno de 532nm 50mW y otro de 635/638nm 200mW

http://www.ebay.es/itm/Modulo-diodo-...ht_3498wt_1166

http://www.ebay.es/itm/635-638nm-200...ht_1754wt_1166

También quiero comprar un 445/450 de unos 200/300mw también para acoplarlo al proyector.


Con ellos quiero construir un proyector casero. Mi presupuesto es bastante bajo, por eso puse el enlace a los galvos de EBAY.
Necesito saber los componentes necesarios para la construcción del proyector. Por favor dígame lo que necesito y como he de conectarlo, para que los láser vayan al ritmo de la música.

Le pongo un enlace a éstos galvos por si cree usted que son más adecuados y/o mejores que los anteriores. No pretendo hacer nada complicado en cuanto a gráficos, pero si tengo la posibilidad de programar alguno, estaría muy bien.

http://www.ebay.es/itm/20Kpps-HightS...ht_3540wt_1399


También dispongo de una tarjeta de sonido, CAKEWALK UA-25EX, me gustaría saber si puede servir como DAC, para conectar entre el proyector y el sistema Hi-Fi.

http://www.roland.com/products/en/UA-25EX/



Muchas gracias.
Atentamente:

Juan Manuel Montiel.

[dsli_jon]

Hola Juan..

Que bueno que podemos 'chatear' asi, para ayudarle mas rapido.. Bueno - unas preguntitas, para comenzar:

1) Cual es tu 'proposito' - es decir, que 'tipo de shows' quieres hacer (por el mayor parte..) como 'efectos' en una discoteca / concierto / para un 'dj'? O, mas como, 'shows de graficos', para eventos 'corporativos', o, una 'mescla' de los dos tipos de shows? Te pregunto para consejarle mejor..

2) Cual es tu 'nivel' de experiencia con los electronicos - o sea, tienes un 'metro-multi' para medir los voltajes y chequear tus conexiones? Tambien, sabes como a 'soldar' / tienes el equipo?

3) Mas o menos, cuanto, en total, es su presupuesto?

Dejame saber, y vamos desde alli... Y mil disculpes, si mi español no es perfecto.. aprendio en las calles de el Salvador, jajaja..

ciao
j

[dsli_jon]

..Also - to others that 'know' - is this http://www.te-lighting.com/eng/suppo...how%20card.pdf a friggin clone of the 'Phoenix' DAC?? I dunno, I've never seen one, in person, but.. sheesh... with all those billions of intelligent people, you'd think they could manage to put their heads-together, and innovate something truly original and brilliant, themselves, and offer those-products to the world, instead of just frigging cloning everything in-sight, and turning it into 'cheaper, almost-works' *guano*!!

rant: off
j

[juanma666]

Thank you friend, their Spanish is very good. Perfect for the understanding.
And I thank him/her a lot for their help again, since I take several days looking for information and when not dominating their language, it is I very difficult the understanding of what I go reading.

1 - my purpose is to build a projector laser and to connect it to the system Hi-Fi, I am a great fond of the sound, I leave a link to my blog HI-FI.

http://highfidelity.es.tl/Inicio.htm

And for if there is some partner in the forum to which he likes the rail modelismo, here he/she has another link to a scale model that I am building...

http://mimaqueta.es.tl/

The truth is that I almost like all the hobbys, and I have had slope that of the illumination laser for a long time. I love this type of light.
As he/she went him/her saying, I would like to connect the system Hi-Fi to a projector laser. The shows type that I want is the typical of disco, anything of complicated shows; basically rays, tunnel, fog and color changes, to be able to adjust the speed of the changes and the colors. I will use it in a room of about 35 square meters.

2 - my level of experience in electronic, is half, I build acoustic boxes and I don't have problem when to weld or to use a multímetro (I have welder and multímetro).

3 - the budget is already sadder, since with the crisis that is affecting to my country, in these moments don't win too much... he/she had planned to spend in the galvos and the card show laser, about 150-200 $, more or less the price of the last link that I put him/her of EBAY.
Since I also have to buy the module of 445/450nm, the box for the projector and some mirrors that sure they will be necessary me.


I would like to know if I can connect the projector through the card show card to the PC (WINDOWS 7) and to control it from there... and from the PC to connect the sound (CAKEWALK UA-25EX) card directly to the sound system, to be able to combine the laser with the music's rhythm.

If it cannot be this way; please tells me what I need to be able to control the projector with the PC and the sound system.
If I am able to build it, I will photograph step-by-step the process and I will put it in a blog, for if it is him/her from help to another person.


Thank you again.


Juanma.


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Gracias amigo, su español es muy bueno. Perfecto para el entendimiento.
Y vuelvo a agradecerle mucho su ayuda, ya que llevo varios días buscando información y al no dominar su idioma, me es muy difícil la comprensión de lo que voy leyendo.

1- Mi propósito es construir un proyector láser y conectarlo al sistema Hi-Fi, soy un gran aficionado al sonido, le dejo un enlace a mi blog HI-FI.

http://highfidelity.es.tl/Inicio.htm

Y por si hay algún compañero en el foro al que le guste el modelismo ferroviario, aquí tiene otro enlace a una maqueta que estoy construyendo...

http://mimaqueta.es.tl/

La verdad es que me gustan casi todos los hobbys, y hace mucho tiempo que tengo pendiente el de la iluminación láser. Me encanta este tipo de luz.
Como le iba diciendo, me gustaría conectar el sistema Hi-Fi a un proyector láser. El tipo de shows que quiero son los típicos de discoteca, nada de shows complicados; básicamente rayos, túnel, niebla y cambios de color, poder ajustar la velocidad de los cambios y los colores. Lo voy a utilizar en una habitación de unos 35 metros cuadrados.

2- Mi nivel de experiencia en electrónica, es media, construyo cajas acústicas y no tengo problema a la hora de soldar o usar un multímetro (tengo soldador y multímetro).

3- El presupuesto ya es más triste, puesto que con la crisis que está afectando a mi país, en estos momentos no gano demasiado... había pensado gastar en los galvos y la tarjeta show láser, unos 150-200$, más o menos el precio del último enlace que le puse de EBAY.
Ya que tengo que comprar también el módulo de 445/450nm, la caja para el proyector y algunos espejos que seguro me harán falta.


Me gustaría saber si puedo conectar el proyector a través de la tarjeta show card al PC (WINDOWS 7) y controlarla desde allí... y desde el PC conectar la tarjeta de sonido (CAKEWALK UA-25EX) directamente al equipo de sonido, para poder combinar los láser con el ritmo de la música.

Si no puede ser así; por favor dígame lo que necesito para poder controlar el proyector con el PC y el sistema de sonido.
Si consigo construirlo, fotografiaré paso a paso el proceso y lo pondré en un blog, por si le es de ayuda a otra persona.



Muchas gracias de nuevo.


Juanma.

[White-Light]

White-Light will soon be here to recommend QuickShow.

I didn't have to John as you did it for me!

However, now that you mention it, Quickshow does have a Virtual Laser Jockey that will automatically change cues on selected pages according to the beats from the audio input which and is adjustable between 1-32 beats in various increments.

As with any program beat detection is good but not perfect as other emphasis notes can sometimes appear as beats and the human ear is much better at distinguishing beats than a computer that only has rules to go on. However, its still pretty good.

There are also some cues which themselves are designed to move / change appearance according to the beat and its possible to design your own cues to do this also, as movement and effects can be constructed on either a time or beat change basis.

Beyond is even more advanced on the audio side thanks to a brand new feature, but I can't talk about that, sorry!

[LaNeK779]

However, now that you mention it...

hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!! nice one!!!