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    $600 is a lot of money to me also but this hobby isn't cheap and I guess when your main software costs thousands then that is hobbyist level.

    It's not that different to other manufacturers software in price at that level eg Moncha and arguably more powerful in some areas.

    You have to remember when making comparisons with LSX pricing, that someone sitting in their University bedroom writing software can do it a whole lot cheaper than a company with premises and employees to be paid for.

    Also, it's horses for courses. LSX excels at abstracts. However, you could argue that QS excels in live play and ease of use. It's all down to price and what's important to you.

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    I beg to differ. LSX is very capable with live shows. Especially when controlled with MIDI. Which brings us back to the starting point...
    Not going to comment on ease of use though :P but it's not that hard to use either...

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    Quote Originally Posted by colouredmirrorball View Post
    I can hardly consider $600 software "hobbyist". Maybe that's just me though...
    I like my software limitless. I feel that $600 software should be limitless because $600 is a huge pile of money. Correct me if I'm wrong B-)
    That's most certainly you.
    projectors are very expensive and so are their software.
    Quickshow is kinda close in the fields of moncha and the likes which are considered hobbyist software.

    Most people use a touchscreen incorporated with a midi controller for the grid.

    Regarding LD2000 too:
    You should take a look at LOBO's pricing.
    you should take a look at the lasergraph DSP pricing.

    I think you would need to investigate more before making price claims.

    Regarding liveplay, QS is used for a long time with liveplay, its as far as I know the most popular liveplay software in the world.
    Sure again LSX is powerfull but you shouldn't bash QS on that field as there is a reason why its being used for liveplay so much.

    And no this not because i'm a sorta pangolin fanboy.
    I like pangolin yes sure. LSX is powerfull and really well priced I agree.

    But I've also checked out other software like fiesta, lobo's software, lasergraph (which btw looks primitive but is quite awsome), moncha and mamba.

    Edit: lingaowei was just asking for help.
    Why did you even have to bring up the LSX vs Quickshow arguement?
    I don't really get that.
    Last edited by masterpj; 09-26-2012 at 05:29.

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    Actually it wasn't me who mentioned LSX in the first place. I was expressing my opinion about the possibilities of QS (maybe in an offensive manner, I don't know). But I was careful to avoid mentioning LSX as this is indeed not the right place for such a discussion.
    You might notice how I also tried to give a solution.

    But, since the can of worms has already been opened:

    Projectors are as expensive as you want them. You can buy a $200 one with ilda interface. Then, $600 for software isn't "hobbyist" anymore.

    So, this is what I think QS is: select a cue and press tap sync. Create a cue if you want to and trace images. Did I miss anything? Is that really worth $600?
    If your next argument is "It comes with a whole library of files and cues and shows you can use!" then I might be interested in a $50 version of QS without all the shows and cues. I can do without.

    More oil, more fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colouredmirrorball View Post

    So, this is what I think QS is: select a cue and press tap sync. Create a cue if you want to and trace images. Did I miss anything? Is that really worth $600?
    Off the top:

    - Live Control of size, position, rotation including auto as well as manual, colour, visible points, scan speed, brightness

    - VLJ (probably the most powerful automatic playback feature in any software and certainly at the price) with comprehensive control of its settings

    - 48 QuickFX with each category having its own effects Layers VLJ

    - 30 Projection Zones (thus support for professionals using multiple projectors)

    - 32 Targets

    - Beam Attenuation Mapping

    - Full Geometric Correction of all zone display parameters including size, position, rotation, linearity, symmetry, keystone, pincushion, bow and shear

    - Flash and several other click modes besides stop and start

    - Multi-cueing

    - Precise beat matching by entering BPM figure rather than tapping

    - DMX

    - Midi

    - Dynamics Control - full control of all limiters and soft start / soft end settings

    - Live Controls

    - Live Effects

    - QuickText allowing instant text output in live play

    - Quickshape

    - 24 Cue Transitions

    - Full control of preview parameters

    - Hundreds of Quality cues as standard across all categories

    - Full set of projector controls + built in ILDA test patterns

    - Quality DAC

    Ultimately the choice is yours.

    If you want the ultimate in flexibility and features though, you need Beyond.
    Last edited by White-Light; 09-26-2012 at 10:16.

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