Laws and regulations for lasershow in Italy

[Laservision]

Hi, my Italian is non existing and google translate has not been able to help me find the resources I need either. Does anyone in here know where to read about the laws and regulations for Laser in Italy?

[gottaluvlasers]

You may want to search out "Steve Milani" here on PL. He's in Italy and I am pretty sure he does professional shows. Good guy also!

-Marc

[Steve Milani]

As far I know there is not any "specific" regulation about lasershow in Italy, even if Italian Govern has approved all European Community laws about how to use lasers.
Looking at movies on Youtube you can see, most cases, Italian lasers used indoor (pub, bar and disco) with low safe for audience. This is bad, absolutely.
Anyway, thanking God, until now, no accidents are occorse to anybody. I never heard about any people injuried by laser during lasershow indoor or outdoor.
Obviously in Italy also is forbidden to use laser source next to airport, military bases or shoot to the sky where could be airplanes flight path, etc. etc. We have the same laws of the rest of Europe.
Surelly you are thinking yourself: "well... what the difference is, then?"
Difference is: here in Italy there are very few Govern Officers that fully know lasershow regulations.
Nobody will come next to you asking the real output power of your projector: you can tell him 400mW instead 4W (real power). This is because nobody of them brings with himself a power meter to check power (because nobody has a powermeter!). Laser powermeter is for laserist only!

The worst risk could be, when running a lasershow outdoor, an Officers of Public Ambient Safe asking you the "certificate" which demonstrate your laser is NOT a "pollutant light source". I know...This is unbelievable but true.

If your projector has been built with full respect of safe regulations (emergency stop, safety projection zone, no unwanted infrared emissions, main ground connection, etc. etc.), and you fully know how to play a lasershow in safe way..... then you have not any problem even in Italy.

[Laservision]

Hi Steve and thank you very much for your answer.

As far as I know there are little consensus in EU on the regulations for laser in public shows. Do you know any details of the version that is applied in Italy? Is "crowd"scanning accepted and if so at what MPE? Even in the Nordic countries there are no consensus at all, Denmark are probably more like Italy, Sweden have very strict laws and expensive license fees which are somewhat hard to get, Norway has little regulation but very hard rules of reporting and license.

It will be an outdoors show, so what is this certificate of "pollutant lightsource"? Do I really need one, how do I get one and what are the fees?

Could there be any problem with customs when bringing my own equipment (MediaLas) on flight?

[Steve Milani]

What I wrote you is all that I know. I'm sorry.

About pollutant lightsource... Don't worry.
This is a strange/funny (but true) history which I had read on a newspaper, long times ago, about some environmental measurements done nightime somewhere in Italy (I don't rememberer well... sorry). It spoke about high power light sources like stadium lights, amusement parks, light sets for music events (es: Pink Floyd style...) and lasers also. Anyway... don't worry. Nobody will ask you anything, because nobody know if there is a specific law about.

Anyway...
As I already told you, if your projector is OK and you too (the laser operator) are OK.... then I think "zero problems".
No powerful rays into people eyes; all rays must to be shot "over the head"; no sky shot dangerous for airplanes; emergency stop button: etc. etc...... You already well know all of this.

About equipment and customs...
If you send your equipment as "hold baggage" (not hand baggage with you in cabin) I think no-problem: when you safe protect your projector into its case, it is a "common" hold baggage.
(How the big lasershow company do to transport their equipments by air? )
You should rather think about how to safety lock all projector's components.... Almost sure: you will have to do a new alignment (wishing no problems for optics and dichros...). Ware operators, in most
of Italian airports, treat hold baggage like... potatoes bags....

It's up to me now.... Just a couple of questions...
1) What about ask better infos directly to the general manager of your Italian event? Maybe he could know something more.
2) Where the show place will be ?

Cheers!

Hi Steve and thank you very much for your answer.

As far as I know there are little consensus in EU on the regulations for laser in public shows. Do you know any details of the version that is applied in Italy? Is "crowd"scanning accepted and if so at what MPE? Even in the Nordic countries there are no consensus at all, Denmark are probably more like Italy, Sweden have very strict laws and expensive license fees which are somewhat hard to get, Norway has little regulation but very hard rules of reporting and license.

It will be an outdoors show, so what is this certificate of "pollutant lightsource"? Do I really need one, how do I get one and what are the fees?

Could there be any problem with customs when bringing my own equipment (MediaLas) on flight?

[Laservision]

Well the whole crew is Swedish, we will be doing a video recording with some laser effects.

The potato-sack-effect is worrying me a bit.

Do you know of any local laser-company near Napoli which could support some equipment.

[Steve Milani]

this is the only one I found on Internet...

http://www.laserevent.info/1/laser_a...o_4025941.html

[Stoney3K]

These regulations (or actual lack thereof) sound similar to the situation we have in the Netherlands. Even if there *were* some decent rules to follow, there are no qualified people to effectively enforce them.

Common sense is still the first rule.