Thinking about buying this Chinese laser- good deal?

[JCastLD]

Hi guys,

I am thinking about buying this, $3,590. Do you think it is a good deal with the way it is built as well as the power/wattage of the R G B ? Please do not take into account variance concerns it is for use outside of the country by a qualified operator. Its main application will be in 500-5k capacity venues for EDM/Dance music shows. THANKS!!!! Blue Room UK guys referred me here I appreciate any feedback see attached below :

[WookieBoy]

Ok.

Firstly, Hi and welcome to PL!

Secondly, where are you based/using this projector as it will greatly affect the answers you need.

Thirdly, before you send your hard earned $$ to them, check out the competition as there seems to be millions of chilaser co's all killint each other to sell the "best super party lucky laser"... so shop around.
If you're in the UK, check out StanWax before you send your money abroad...
Chilasers rarely come with 'scan-fail devices' that would be acceptable to a HSE inspecter and often the warrent involves shipping it back to china at your expence...(that is if you get a warrenty worth the paper it's written on in the first place!)

Saying that, there's a few members here who will testify to good experiences with chilaser co's and they'll probably chime in soon enough.

Well. That's a start... i'm back to my after show pint now!

Oh. As to the origional question... looks ok... but not especially spectacular for the money.

[JCastLD]

Thanks for the reply (and welcome)! I would love to hear from anyone with a good Chinese laser experience, especially anyone that has used the software it comes with (Moncha.net). Good call on the warranty I would like to be able to use a trusted source/company that will live up to their word in fixing and sending back a laser that breaks. Looking forward to geeking out over here thanks

[bridge]

advise contact with Stanwax for professional products and service.

[norty303]

Hiya, glad you found the place ok, it was me who recommended you ask over here.

As I said on BR, it looks like the company will supply their other projectors with Moncha or Pangolin FB3, so may be worth asking if this one could be built with the latter.

I'm not saying Moncha is bad, but I would think that a good number of people here would think the Pango option is preferable if the money is the same, for all manner of reasons.

I think I mentioned also that the case, etc looks better quality than a lot of the other Chinese offerings, which may well bode better for some of the internals.

That said, everything I buy from China I consider to be without a warranty due to the costs of returning. They sell them cheap because they generally don't have to support too many, so pay your money and take your choice, but remember the warranty will generally cost you if it is to be worth anything.

If you are not comfortable with opening the thing up and getting stuck in then consider the warranty aspect carefully.

[Bradfo69]

I agree with everything that's been said above. Moncha is not a bad program and, there is a fair amount of available content. The software is easy to learn but... for the most support for questions, and available content, an FB3 from Pangolin will be a better alternative, if it's available to you. Both Quickshow and particularly BEYOND are much more powerful software combined with an FB3. Showtacles flagship program is Fiesta which will not work with the Moncha DAC whereas Pangolins new flagship program BEYOND WILL work with an FB3. The money difference is negligible.

As far as the projector, again, not awful but, as others have suggested, touch base with Rob Stanley (stanwax) first. As far as chinese companies, I've been happy with CR-Tec and, they're corporate members of ILDA. I read good things about Goldenstar as well but, have no real experience with them. There are a WHOLE lot to avoid like the plague. If that dollar amount is in your budget, a used Kvant might be worth searching for. You may find that a 2.5 watt projector is a bit undersized for a 5000 person event though.

An interesting side note to the Pango/Moncha thing is that, when I do a demonstration to a group of people that I'm trying to sell lasers to for their wedding or prom or whatever, I tend to use Moncha for the demo but, on the night of the event, I use Pangolin products. Pango has better "live" controls whereas, I have much better and, more current content with shows that have been created in Moncha. Maybe because it's easier to create good looking shows quickly in Moncha.

[daction]

My first Chinese rgb projector (not a fancy as one one you have shown) would require cleaning after about 12 hours use.
Some times I would have to remove the optics to clean them. Which would in turn require realignment .
Just a bit of feed back.

[goldenstarmimi]

I am mimi, from goldenstar laser from China. As a manufacturer of laser in this line for many years, I think laser is simple, there is only laser didoe , scanners, DMX board inside, the most important is alignment and its craft inside. So if you know something about electronic or laser, you can buy from China. If you know nothing, you can buy from local agency, it is better because they can offer good after sale service. Since laser is electronic product, nobody can assume it is 100% without problem. Many laserist or customers buy from us because we have good price and good quality, but sometimes, the laser diode fade away, or electronic board with problem, most of them can fix by themselves.

We also have new case with Monch.net inside, I attach the photo here, you can have a look. The same power of laser diode, maybe we can give better price, but we use laserwave laser diode, able use CNI, in OEM series.

If you are interested, you can contact me , my e-mail address is: mimi@goldentarlaser.com MSN: goldenstarmimi@hotmail.com , my website is: www.goldenstarlaser.com

[ClearBlu]

Very honest response by Mimi imho

[DanielS]

Besides the quality issues here, it has to be said that 2.5 watt RGB isn't really powerful enough for venues of that size if its got to compete with any other sort of lighting. You need to be looking at at least 4 - 6 watt.