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    Default My first laser: REKE-500 RGB - on the way

    Just placed an order for a Reke-500 which is my first RGB laser with DMX/ILDA... When this comes in, I could most likely use a lesson on alignment from someone with experience. Then my next step is to decide on my first ILDA hardware/software package. Moncha or QuickShow are my top picks as of now... Wish I could afford Beyond as that is the functionality I'm really looking for in software, but can't afford or justify for educational/learning use. I'm really surprised by lack of Mac solutions out there... Let me know if others are interested in Mac solution as I may consider starting a Mac ILDA project with some other developers....

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    Hey BradleyJay,

    Very cool...The reke 500 is a very good beginning into this money pit hobby... I can't vouch for Moncha but, I do know that
    QuickShow has a huge user base and Pangolin customer service is awesome. Plus, you can always get new shows and share
    the ones you create on Pangolinshows.com . Have fun with your new toy

    Mark

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    Nice! You can always bring it down and I'll help you with it if it arrives needing alignment. Mark ^ can always help with that as well.

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    I'm really excited. All my friends are amazed at the little 'living room' shows I'm putting on already with manual wireless controlled DJ laser effects I've collected over the years. Its about time I take this to the next level. I figured that I could get this started with a limited projector (that could still be useful down the line) plus ilda package instead of rushing into a decision on an analog Chinese one. While learning on lower-end equipment to start with, this buys me time to research and decide to build my own or purchase a complete unit while I get a better idea of what I'm trying to do with this hobby.

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    ITS HERE ITS HERE!!!! I"m totally blown away by my first REAL laser projector. This thing puts all my previous lasers in the dust and I'm just amazed at how awesome this thing is even at the low end capabilities of the laser projectors. Now I'm wishing I already ordered an ILDA interface and software... what ever I decide and order interface/software wise won't come fast enough... I'm currently considering QuickShow/FB3 or LSX/Riya multibus. Is LSX + LaserCam more powerful than QuickShow? Here's what I was leaning towards: http://www.ebay.com/itm/LSX-RIYA-Las...item2ec09b6b7d

    Anyways, the Reke 500RGB came fairly well aligned. Only thing I notice is a small divergence of red (small pinstripe at bottom) when it is painting orange. Probably not worth messing with yet as it is making all colors including white pretty well. Taking tons of photos with my Sony NEX-5R. Just wish I could control the laser better for taking photos and getting started tapping out the power of this thing. Now I"m too impatient to wait for which ever software/hardware I decide on.... I wish there was a retail outlet I could just go to and buy what I need and have it tomorrow!!!

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    Cool! Congrats! Glad to hear it arrived for you. They really are pretty nice projectors for what they are.

    For you, having met you... I "think" LSX is more up your alley but... there is a learning curve I haven't begun to be able to tackle. When you're excited in the beginng, Quickshow is hard to beat for getting up and running quickly whereas LSX could be overwhelming. Plus you can upgrade the FB3 to BEYOND, from the FB3 when that time comes.

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    Too late now to run away quick--
    If you want QS in 72 hours(or less) I can do that..PM me..

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    LSX/Riya/Lasercam is *excellent* combo. If you're into programming shows, you will find it to be much more powerful than quickshow/fb3. there's also a higher learning curve, but there are some excellent video tutorials and a number of us LSX users in the Photonlexicon irc chat room.

    congratulations on your Reke and be safe!

    here are some shows i've made with it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVSs..._gyfQM0q6fEdle

    Quote Originally Posted by BradleyJay View Post
    ITS HERE ITS HERE!!!! I"m totally blown away by my first REAL laser projector. This thing puts all my previous lasers in the dust and I'm just amazed at how awesome this thing is even at the low end capabilities of the laser projectors. Now I'm wishing I already ordered an ILDA interface and software... what ever I decide and order interface/software wise won't come fast enough... I'm currently considering QuickShow/FB3 or LSX/Riya multibus. Is LSX + LaserCam more powerful than QuickShow? Here's what I was leaning towards: http://www.ebay.com/itm/LSX-RIYA-Las...item2ec09b6b7d

    Anyways, the Reke 500RGB came fairly well aligned. Only thing I notice is a small divergence of red (small pinstripe at bottom) when it is painting orange. Probably not worth messing with yet as it is making all colors including white pretty well. Taking tons of photos with my Sony NEX-5R. Just wish I could control the laser better for taking photos and getting started tapping out the power of this thing. Now I"m too impatient to wait for which ever software/hardware I decide on.... I wish there was a retail outlet I could just go to and buy what I need and have it tomorrow!!!
    suppose you're thinkin' about a plate o' shrimp. Suddenly someone'll say, like, plate, or shrimp, or plate o' shrimp out of the blue, no explanation. No point in lookin' for one, either. It's all part of a cosmic unconciousness.

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    Learning software is not an obstacle for me (I do this in my sleep as a high profile Software QA Engineer). I'm used to evaluating competitors software in short periods of time every time a new product idea comes my way. I have even researched and evaluated all software available in an entire industry in short periods of time to be able to improve and innovate new software designs. Learning DMX hardware lighting controller programming and midi programming... that is something I have just struggled to grasp (Chauvet Obey boards specifically, maybe they just don't do what I thought they did physically)... It took me a bit to figure midi mapping out (I have successfully programmed my Roland vDrums via a USB Midi interface mapped to a professional level electronic drum/percussion software and Logic Pro). I'm pretty confident I could master any of these laser software applications, including LaserBoy on Linux or Mac. I really want Beyond not QuickShow and the price of Beyond more than scares me away right now and the features listed for LSX seem pretty desirable both on the hardware and software side. I'm just not sure if that Riya interface, which can also drive animations off SD cards and has Ethernet connectivity performs as well as the FB3. There is something to be said about industry 'standards' such as Adobe PDF, Microsoft Office... If FB3/Pangolin is that industry standard, it may be worthwhile having/knowing just for interactions with everyone else in the industry.

    Overall, I'd prefer a more advanced software that I could grow into. Right away, I just want to be able to set certain drawings constant (auto/sound active modes don't give me time to set a scene and adjust manual camera settings). I'd just start with tunnel circles and some abstracts for photography purposes. Then I'd start making my own drawings (don't want to be limited to just bitmap/gifs and may want to model with 3DS). That LaserCam app it comes with looks interesting as well. Has anyone tried that? I was considering building my own hack-a-dac interface to use with Laserboy, so I think either of these would be more than I need. I'm just worried I'd be all tied down to pangolin's proprietary software/drivers and feel like I may be able to get more inventive use out of the Riya/LSX/LaserCam package. If I had a spare $1200, I'd rather purchase an analog RGB projector than buy software I hope to replace with my own software some day. I'd rather put the money into the hardware. Has anyone used the Riya multibus?

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    you should have no problems with the riya dac, but if you want something a little more advanced, pick up an etherdream dac.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/LSX-Pro-Ethe...item2ec4266a89

    do not be concerned about the output quality of a riya/etherdream dac and an fb3. one of the big advantages of the etherdream dac is it connects via ethernet and speaks tcp/ip. i would choose a network connected dac over a usb connected one any day of the week.

    one issue with quickshow and beyond is they won't export frames/animations/shows as ILDA (the laser industry standard format). if you stay within the pangolin ecosystem this is not likely to be an issue, but if you're interested in playing shows off of SD cards or sharing them between software packages, you're out of luck.

    i have lasercam and will be featuring it very heavily in some of the next shows i create. in the meantime, here's a link to some of my experiments with it. in a nutshell, it's excellent and can be a very powerful tool.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWUS10FZpF0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXWFc1StaTY


    Quote Originally Posted by BradleyJay View Post
    Learning software is not an obstacle for me (I do this in my sleep as a high profile Software QA Engineer). I'm used to evaluating competitors software in short periods of time every time a new product idea comes my way. I have even researched and evaluated all software available in an entire industry in short periods of time to be able to improve and innovate new software designs. Learning DMX hardware lighting controller programming and midi programming... that is something I have just struggled to grasp (Chauvet Obey boards specifically, maybe they just don't do what I thought they did physically)... It took me a bit to figure midi mapping out (I have successfully programmed my Roland vDrums via a USB Midi interface mapped to a professional level electronic drum/percussion software and Logic Pro). I'm pretty confident I could master any of these laser software applications, including LaserBoy on Linux or Mac. I really want Beyond not QuickShow and the price of Beyond more than scares me away right now and the features listed for LSX seem pretty desirable both on the hardware and software side. I'm just not sure if that Riya interface, which can also drive animations off SD cards and has Ethernet connectivity performs as well as the FB3. There is something to be said about industry 'standards' such as Adobe PDF, Microsoft Office... If FB3/Pangolin is that industry standard, it may be worthwhile having/knowing just for interactions with everyone else in the industry.

    Overall, I'd prefer a more advanced software that I could grow into. Right away, I just want to be able to set certain drawings constant (auto/sound active modes don't give me time to set a scene and adjust manual camera settings). I'd just start with tunnel circles and some abstracts for photography purposes. Then I'd start making my own drawings (don't want to be limited to just bitmap/gifs and may want to model with 3DS). That LaserCam app it comes with looks interesting as well. Has anyone tried that? I was considering building my own hack-a-dac interface to use with Laserboy, so I think either of these would be more than I need. I'm just worried I'd be all tied down to pangolin's proprietary software/drivers and feel like I may be able to get more inventive use out of the Riya/LSX/LaserCam package. If I had a spare $1200, I'd rather purchase an analog RGB projector than buy software I hope to replace with my own software some day. I'd rather put the money into the hardware. Has anyone used the Riya multibus?
    suppose you're thinkin' about a plate o' shrimp. Suddenly someone'll say, like, plate, or shrimp, or plate o' shrimp out of the blue, no explanation. No point in lookin' for one, either. It's all part of a cosmic unconciousness.

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