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    Andy,
    I know, you said that,but we can. I have to say that despite discussions I have had with you in the past where there has been much disagreement, in this I am inclined to support you. This just keeps getting curiouser and curiouser:

    I'm not assuming any preconceived conceptions
    No?
    I'm sorry you have paid out money, I have a daughter who has also been subjected to being used.
    Maybe you did not intend it, but this is not debatable; this was not nice. This parallel example assumes that snowflake was used. It isn't even softened with the suggestion that snowflake "might feel as if has been used"

    As I have always done, I've helped people,
    OK, then just do it, quietly.

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    Do I need to post more

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    Connah Kawaii Desu Nealon otherwise known an Snowflake, attempting to hide the card identity.

    Before somebody writes that I can fake this bitmap; that is true indeed but I cannot fake an inbound facebook message.

    I also requested Facebook to archive a copy of my account as it stands in the event it is hacked and the evidence lost. They confirmed this has been done today.

    I have already instructed our company lawyer to write to Snowflakes father instructing him to remove slanderous comments from PL.
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    someone just made bills naughty list.

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    LOL-

    Someone just got found out!!!

    Snowflake- if I were you, I would publically apologize to AndyF. I am quite sure you do not want more postings from him to provide more proof that you are/were trying to pull a fast one.

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    No you don't, but it would be fun.

    I've got another question:
    Francesco is not a third party. He is Pangolin repair centre for Europe...
    There is a suggestion that Francesco can upgrade these cards to a pro level. Is that a standard service or only one available if Francesco is unaware of the nature of the original card. And can that nature be undetectable except for a "sticker"? It would be interesting to hear from Francesco.

    Oh, and snowflake:
    I'm a producer, I make mediocre music and I'm a brony.
    This is easy. You do not want Pangolin making any serious efforts in this regard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by planters View Post
    No you don't, but it would be fun.

    I've got another question:


    There is a suggestion that Francesco can upgrade these cards to a pro level. Is that a standard service or only one available if Francesco is unaware of the nature of the original card. And can that nature be undetectable except for a "sticker"? It would be interesting to hear from Francesco.
    Planters; All QM2000 can be changed from Intro to Pro using a kind of flash update; It is required a payment and you would get a file which will do it. The serial number of the card is required; the flash update will only work on the card specified by the serial so No it cannot be used to update 10 Intro's to be 10 Pro's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andyf97 View Post
    I have already instructed our company lawyer to write to Snowflakes father instructing him to remove slanderous comments from PL.
    'Libellous'. I'm pretty sure that for legal purposes, PL is a written publication, even though posters are liable for their own comments. Maybe best to take it to PM, where it is neither slanderous nor libellous. By now there is a public interest in the outcome though...

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    There may actually be both if Skype is involved, but your point is valid. This "13 year old student" may be receiving a valuable education here. Lets hope he learns something.

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    What's bad about this is, if Snowflake would have contacted Bill directly about an upgrade, he might have given him a deal. Bill has been known to do that from time to time.

    I know some people see Andy's attitude as a little harsh here and there but I have never seen him screw people over. Something didn't smell right from the beginning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dave View Post
    Francesco is not a third party. He is Pangolin repair centre for Europe...
    I think he means in the deal... the 13 year old kid and andy are the two parties in the transaction... therefore Francesco is a third party as he has no interest in the deal that took place...

    sounds like someone tried to scam pangolin and failed killing a QM in the process... sad

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