Wanted Laser Projector 6W RGB, Full Color, 30K Scanners, Good Price, Used OK...

[djdanmatthews]

Hey Guys,

I am looking for a great deal (save some money) on something used, new, custom built, returns, or test equipment.

Looking for a full color RGB laser projector that is small in size, light metal case, and accommodate 2000mw/635nm red, 2000mw/532nm green, 2000mw/445nm blue (flexible on this as long as I get the power I need). Something bright for aerial beams. Laserwave, CNI, etc...


Option A
Get a complete system complete system with the 30K scanner gavlos, case, dicro mirrors, power supply, ILDA port will be using with quick show I own, fan cooling supply, hardware, etc.

Option B
I want to be able to use the green part of the laser (2000mw/532nm green) with a complete system (minus the blue and red diodes) and latter buy the red and blue lasers from you and be able to plug them into the power unit and use them. Everything else will be installed, but the red and blue diodes which will be plug and play adjustable.

Option C
Used, custom made, returns, test items, etc


Let me know if you can do any of that and the prices.


Thanks,
Dan

[polishedball]

6w and a dj, do you have a variance?

[djdanmatthews]

Yes already have a variance, but I don't care either way if it doesn't have it, trying to save some money. I am not using this to make money, personal use. Have a laser world now trying to get rid of and upgrade. Winni from Golden Star Laser gave me a cost ... but open to used and home brew, etc...

[dsli_jon]

hi djdm..

Yes already have a variance, but I don't care either way if it doesn't have it,....

..Sorry, but... these two statements are fundamentally at-odds with each other.. (..since, importing an uncertified projector is still illegal, even for "personal use"..) Do you mind sharing with us either your Var# or under-which entity / name you filed your paperwork, and, also, what certified-projector you filed your initial 'product' (shows..) report with / got approval-for? That way, we could 'feel more comfy' about helping someone that wants to use a 6000mW laser projector for "personal use" ... Oh, and, don't worry about revealing any 'personal info', here, since, as I'm sure you remember from your filings, all Variances are public-records, searchable in the Federal register at regulations.gov....

Thanks!
j

[djdanmatthews]

Jon, I bought the current laser I have am am trying to upgrade or sell and get another one 5 years ago, have no idea where the variance papers are etc. That was done for me by laser world at the time. I had a omnisitem g-beam before that with one two. I just didn't use it enough for a fee or in public to care really. I am making NO money off this. In fact in this very message board someone had a posting about it being ok to use illegal lasers if it wasn't for pay.... whats the issue? Are you trolling me or why the big deal?

Sounds like someone is afraid the gov't is going to get them instead of realizing we can buy these lasers form China, etc no probs

[The_Doctor]

..since, importing an uncertified projector is still illegal, even for "personal use"..

That's interesting, I was sort of aware of that but not gave it much thought as I'm not in the US, but I'm still interested. Not least cos we might well get similar laws here (UK) anyway.. So, what's the status if you import it on the basis that to the buyer, it can be considered as a 'component', and that it will only be used for a show once modifed as required, and varianced? I understand that if the seller stipulates that it IS a component, even if damn near complete, that could be legal so long as some technically proficient step is required to make it 'plug-and-play', but that raises the question of whether this treatment as 'component' (prior to preparation and variancing) as asserted at the buyer's end is enough to make a buyer legal even if the seller has sold it in a way not directly compliant with US law.

Specifically, a buyer might buy a complete projector for the direct purpose of modification or even just raiding it for parts anyway. So what does US law do in this case?

[The_Doctor]

...have no idea where the variance papers are etc. That was done for me by laser world at the time.

What's 'Laser World'? Got to ask, because I thought a variance was very specific to context, not something a shop (or other seller) can do for a customer.

Sounds like someone is afraid the gov't is going to get them instead of realizing we can buy these lasers form China, etc no probs

Maybe so, maybe not. Can't speak for Jon but I reckon that given that even Obama is agonising on occasion over tricky negotiations about how US and China do business, it comes down to individuals figuring out the best way to jump rather than wait to be pushed around. In other words, it's not just paranoia..

[djdanmatthews]

What's 'Laser World'? Got to ask, because I thought a variance was very specific to context, not something a shop (or other seller) can do for a customer.



Maybe so, maybe not. Can't speak for Jon but I reckon that given that even Obama is agonising on occasion over tricky negotiations about how US and China do business, it comes down to individuals figuring out the best way to jump rather than wait to be pushed around. In other words, it's not just paranoia..

No Idea on Variance specifics..., all I know is in the past when I had a show I'd email omnisistems they were big here in the states for their lights and they had a automatic thing that emailed to the proper people. With Laser World it was a second hand purchase so he had links and forums to fill out. I don't believe these people do anything with the variance other than make it easier to fill out the forums and get to the right departments. Again I am not expert. I was doing alot more projection and lighting back in those days and many clubs I worked in would have units that would be there for decades it seemed and no one was turning in proper paperwork. Then I started to get out of the business and just do stuff for myself and friends for fun, its really not worth the hassle of a variance and notifications. It just dosn't get used enough or commercially enough. I think its a very silly system which should only be required for corporations or large events, of course anyone can do harm but they do those now with illegal guns even though some people are responsible and shoot at targets / a range. They really have made to much red tape for the average guy to do anything. Getting a car license is easier.

Laser world is a company out of Germany/ or Switzerland that is a international reseller of lasers.

[The_Doctor]

Ok, makes sense that given the requirements, some sellers might ease the form submissions a bit. Bear in mind that silly it may be, but if it helps you resist litigation by someone who just wants to hit you because they think they got indecently flashed by one of your lasers, it's worth using. For whatever reason,. you're better off showing that you're doing the right thing. Otherwise it's just your word against a complainant, and in those cases I imagine the only winners are the lawyers. Ultimately this is why I'm so interested, because the UK seems to be heading the US's way with litigious habits. I don't do shows, but equally I don't want to make it impossible to do one, so I try to learn a bit about it.

[Song]

Hi Dan,
Offer:
XTRA 5.6W RGB, new, 635nm Red 1.6W + 532nm Green 2W + 445nm Blue 2W, ILDA-30K, 3D adjustable dichro, road case, 10meter ILDA cable, price USD4300, free shipping to US.
Housing picture:


e-mail: saifer@topiclight.com.

Thank you!
Song