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    since you are located in NY do you have your required NYS class B certificate of competence ( NYS code Rule 50)

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    Laserworld. (Booo... Hisss.... Dirty rotten Lying Bastards of the Laser Industry)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradfo69 View Post
    .. ..can a US based manufacturer make and sell lasers to out of the country buyers without anything from the CDRH? ..
    Yes, the only 'restrictions' are those imposed by 'export-regs' (ie: sales-restrictions to certain Countries...ie: Guv-man prooolly won't be too-keen on shipping non-medical / hot-rodded LaserScopes to N. Korea.. etc..) and Labeling needs to state "FOR EXPORT ONLY", etc.. However, you'd of course still need to comply with any 'standards' in the Countries to-which you were shipping (IEC, etc..) But, the FDA only cares about 'Reg'ing' stuff for introduction into "US Commerce"..

    PS - However, it still-behooves a Manufacturer to build-to the stringent US-standards, even when going to countries 'w/O Regs', as, obviously, the 'paper' isn't going to save someone from getting injured.. Safety-controls, like 'non auto-resetting output' after sig / power-loss, etc, are just smart / considerate to yer fellow man.. Sure, it might 'cost more', but.. made it much easier to sleep... ie: When I built KTP systems destined for El Sal, there, they had *every* safety bell / whistle, as the models for US-use.. same 'Best Practices' Training, same methodical 'Quality Control Program', etc - Zero 'short cuts'..
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    For perma-Ref: 'Laserworld AG' - the Euro-counterpart to 'LW USA' did NOT have approved PJs, as recently as 2011, and, these models are (or, are / were-not?? dunno..) considered part of the "professional series".. These are links for Var's that got 'approved' - IF - the applicant's agreed to DELETE / STOP-USING their LW-pjs..

    http://www.regulations.gov/#!documen...09-V-0219-0003 / http://www.regulations.gov/#!documen...10-V-0269-0004 / http://www.regulations.gov/#!documen...09-V-0142-0003 / http://www.regulations.gov/#!documen...09-V-0193-0003 ..etc..
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    WOW, those are some expensive lasers!!!!!

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    Hey guys,

    I was just informed about the thread going on here. I have two company’s now (Lasertainment Productions, Inc. and Laser Shows Inc.). For the products that we now offer: On the high end they are RTI laser systems and on the less expensive we have our own Lasertainment products. We spent a lot of time and money to have ALL of these laser products certified with the FDA/CDRH. I don’t mind questions about my company's, I do mind false accusations that would hurt the reputation I have built over the past 3 decades. So please be respectful of that.
    I’m an authorized reseller of RTI products for high-end products, as well as lower end products that are designed very specific to the US market and fully comply with all Federal Regulations.
    FYI ILDA we be held this November in Las Vegas. Myself and Tom from LaserNet will be hosting. Should be fun. I hope many of you can attend. I will have many of our lasers there. I’ll be happy to show our products inside and out.
    If you are interested in purchasing or renting. Please contact me direct.

    Robert Teorey
    robert@lasertainment.com

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    Hi RT -

    Welcome to PL..

    So.. with the 'greatest of respect'.. a few questions:

    Quote Originally Posted by LaserFoos View Post
    ...ALL of these laser products certified with the FDA/CDRH. I don’t mind questions about my company's, I do mind false accusations... So please be respectful of that. I’m an authorized reseller of RTI products for high-end products, as well as lower end products that are designed very specific to the US market and fully comply with all Federal Regulations.
    Please help me / us 'clear up' the extrapolations / mis-understandings / wrong-conclusions, etc, in this post: http://www.photonlexicon.com/forums/...893#post286893

    ..reason-being, so we can be presenting accurate answers to those that ask, herein, which pj's - exactly - are now-Cer'td, that are either 'LSI-re-branded' LW-pj's, (ie: what were they 'called', as LW-products, and what are they 'called', now, as LSI-products..) or, which are 'L-tainment original' designs, etc.

    ..Of course, it's understood that all RTIs (..which are indeed awesome.. ), and SwissLas models, are all products / engineering of their respective-OEMs, etc, but.. with this community, in particular (since most 'ProCo's haven't tended to 'bank' hi-dollar shows on 'LW's past-quality reputation'..) I submit that it will-be helpful to know 'which are whos' (outside of the RTi's / SwissLas...) and, for those pj's in the LSI-line that are simply 're-branded', what 'quality-improvements' have been made by LSI? (other than bringing them into compliance..) in-light of LW's past-rep, here, and abroad..

    Again, with the 'greatest of respect' I am quite-confident in stating that your answers to these questions, here, will, indeed, 'swing votes', one way or another, in-terms of 'purchase considerations'.. Not sure of how much you've 'lurked', here, before joining, but.. there are some *pretty-astute* 'DIY'ers, here, and there are quite a few members that have designed / built projectors - in their own home-workshops - that rival many "Pro Co's" werk, in terms of quality, attention to detail, and even 'advanced techniques' such as overcoming thermal-issues / digital-monitoring of all temps / scan-parameters, etc, etc..

    ..Here's just a couple quick examples off the top of my head: http://www.photonlexicon.com/forums/...239#post242239 / http://www.photonlexicon.com/forums/...rojector-Build / http://www.photonlexicon.com/forums/...399#post287399 , etc, etc, etc..

    ..Oh yeah, then there's *this* guy / DIY-phenom .... http://www.photonlexicon.com/forums/...-Diode-Modules / http://www.photonlexicon.com/forums/...496#post283496 ..Point-being, this is *quite* the 'discerning crowd'..

    Thanks for your answers / clarifications..
    j
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    I would love to see an actual full product report that was submitted and what is in them. Not the approval but the actual product report that was submitted for review.

    Not so much for the company in question here. But in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaserFoos View Post
    We spent a lot of time and money to have ALL of these laser products certified with the FDA/CDRH. I don’t mind questions about my company's
    ...as well as lower end products that are designed very specific to the US market and fully comply with all Federal Regulations.
    So... lets' get back to the original question. You sell a US varianced laser for $139? http://www.lasershowsinc.com/product/b-r100

    Because all I see is this: http://www.regulations.gov/#!searchR...p=true;ns=true and this http://www.regulations.gov/#!searchR...p=true;ns=true

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradfo69 View Post
    So... lets' get back to the original question. You sell a US varianced laser for $139? http://www.lasershowsinc.com/product/b-r100

    Because all I see is this: http://www.regulations.gov/#!searchR...p=true;ns=true and this http://www.regulations.gov/#!searchR...p=true;ns=true
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