New scanner EMS-5100. Find the difference and win a set !

[planters]

Tom,
Those prices are impressive. I think you will sell a good number, especially with the additional quantity savings. What are the dimensions of the two mirrors that will come standard with these scanner sets?

[EyeMagic]

Hello Mr. Meyer,

The X mirror is 6.85mm wide and the Y mirror is 5.25mm wide / 12mm long.

Regards,

Tom

[Pangolin]

Given the wisdom of Planters, I will refrain from further comments about 506 in this thread. However, I must reply to a few of Tom's assertions.

the saturn scanners are finally here and are behind our EMS-8000 in speed.

So you can go faster than 90K? With 4.5 ohm coil and 140 microhenry inductance? Really?

And they will stay there, because we know a bit about slotted stators.

Hehe. Well at least one of us does

Our EMS-4000 are like this (so much for the re-invention of the motor..!) and they are more than 10 years old.

Actually the ideas of your EMS-4000 can be found in a patent that is 35 years old! Take a look at US Patent 4,302,720 (actually implemented in a way that is more clever than your 4000)...

Refining the shape of the slots will not go much further. As speed goes up, the performance of the slots drops where in the coreless stator it stays linear.

Tom, it is we who have all of the fancy test equipment along with fancy magnetic design software. We would not go down a path that is unproductive!

The new X-3 magnetic circuit is not merely "refining the shape of the slots". In any event, the performance speaks for itself...

If you recall, you have seen with your own eyes our EMS-4000 go 60K@5deg, in HB_laser premises, around a decade ago...

No, I don't recall any of the sort. In fact, I'm not even able to get two pairs of your EMS-8000 to do that! The only conclusion that I draw is that we are rating speeds in a fundamentally different way. Probably even rating beam diameters in a different way too!

I cannot even think what will be your reaction when we release the EMS-1, later this year....

If you'd start telling the truth about the performance and beam diameter than my reaction will be one of silence! It's only when specifications are exaggerated BY ANYBODY that I get upset. And it's not just you Tom!!

I checked out recent QS5 Nutfield scanners, and the performance I see is not reflected in their online specs. At the Photonics West conference I called this to the attention of their new company president.

And in 1998, when Cambridge announce 60K performance from their 6210 scanners I publicly called them out then too! See this thread as a reminder:
http://www.laserfx.com/Backstage.Las...Scanning2.html

We don't want to lie to the people. We want to actually tell the truth about what beam diameter people can expect to project, over what kind of angle, and at what kind of speed. We want our specs to actually be repeatable and meaningful in the marketplace. But if we are the only ones telling the truth, then it might seem underwhelming when other people are lying about 60K and 5mm and wide angles... That's a problem!

Bill

[planters]

Bill,

Welcome back. I think you're back, right?

In any case, I too am tired of communicating with Nutfield, asking a question and then either not hearing anything or being told, by them, that their published specs should be revised.

I can't wait to get a hold of a Saturn SYSTEM for true 5mm beams. Keep in touch.

[Pangolin]

I'm not quite back yet. Visiting a few clients in Germany before I return.

For sure you'll be hearing from me ;-)

Bill

[Blacter]

Thank You Tom,

My set of 5100 arrived today and they are small.
Full set fitted in the box that one ems-7000 galvo arrived in.

As I have no case for them, they have to wait a little.

Took a few photos with my phone

[LaNeK779]

you don't need a case, fire it up already!!!

[Blacter]

My workshop/warehouse is not suitable for electronics right now. Make my best to get in and out without a breaking my leg.

Cant wait to test it out, have 1w red waiting to be scanned.

[sbk]

Oh I received them too some weeks ago (and somewhat forgot to write it here), but I had to install the EMS-8000 from the same package first so no time yet to test the 5100...

[kl79]

Hi ! I received mine a couple of days ago (I just come back from holidays )
I have just the time to post some picture here, and I need more time to mount them with a diode and make another pictures.

A special thank's to Tom for the gift !!
Mickael