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    How many people are actually banking major client shows on a hobby DAC like an Etherdream or EasyAud or EasyLase or whatever, though? Seems to me that a show for a major client is going to be with hardware the likes of Pangolin or, the package Tim Walsh uses whose name escapes me now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradfo69 View Post
    How many people are actually banking major client shows on a hobby DAC like an Etherdream or EasyAud or EasyLase or whatever, though? Seems to me that a show for a major client is going to be with hardware the likes of Pangolin or, the package Tim Walsh uses whose name escapes me now.
    tim uses lasergraph DSP.
    suppose you're thinkin' about a plate o' shrimp. Suddenly someone'll say, like, plate, or shrimp, or plate o' shrimp out of the blue, no explanation. No point in lookin' for one, either. It's all part of a cosmic unconciousness.

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    Brad,
    In terms of Etherdream, you might be supprised. Not many, but a few really big corporate users.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swamidog View Post
    tim uses lasergraph DSP.
    Thanks... I'm getting old and feeble minded. Counldn't recall the name.
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    Steve, you claim that it is a copy of DrLavas code. Which part specifically?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradfo69 View Post
    Thanks... I'm getting old and feeble minded. Counldn't recall the name.
    sollinger provided the lasers for ILDA 2015 so i got to hang with him and hovered while he and tim were doing lasergraph things. very interesting.

    http://laseranimation.com/en/products/lasergraph-dsp
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnYayas View Post
    Steve, you claim that it is a copy of DrLavas code. Which part specifically?
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    I stand corrected, Its JM Laser's
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    Which sort of proves my point about code hosting needing atributes.
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    I wasn't necessarily refuting your claim. I was just trying to understand your case and thought maybe it was part of that universal DAC interface that Andrew wrote. I subsequently took another stroll through the code to see what it was all about. It's basically doing the same thing that the EzAudDAC DLL did to imitate the EasyLase except that not only does contain a clone of the EasyLase interface, it even clones the Etherdream and EzAud interfaces. It is somewhat comical to me; copying an interface that copies another interface that copies another interface.

    I am not certain if JM Lasers would be happy with just receiving credit. I will be happy if the IDN interface takes off so that we can move past this sort of thing.

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    ... the last two years I was in contact and cooperation with both of them - JM Laser and HAlaser and used their docs, sources and support to program an own application around HAlaser's BeamContruct and JM Laser's API for a special verison of XY-galvo-scanner.

    It was no problem to get the contacts or needed infos - but could be, this was easier to get working locally with direct contact, than from behind the pond?

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