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    Quote Originally Posted by dkumpula View Post
    When we are talking about someone with the erratic, emotional behavior that we've all been watching, I don't think there is any limit to what Trump might do with more power than he has now.

    Recent examples include suing or threatening to sue the press and anyone he feels has 'treated him very very unfairly', including a dozen women who said he did to them exactly what he bragged about to Billy Bush and the newspaper(the New York Times) that published the articles that detailed it. In fact this man has been involved in thousands of lawsuits. An article was submitted to a legal body for publication in their magazine describing Trump's litigious bullying over the years, but they were afraid to publish it because they didn't want to get sued by Trump. Other newspapers like the Wall Street Journal also didn't publish unflattering articles about Trump for the same fear. Trump's daily comments about how the free press are "the worst" (and worse) should give pause to anyone who believes in the First Amendment.

    Money is another weapon he's regularly yielded including not paying thousands of contractors, banks, and investors - oh and federal state, local governments (aka taxes). Its a con game that's gone on for decades. Make big promises then don't deliver leaving someone else to hold the bag.

    Oh and for those of you who love to talk about how bad Hillary was for deleting emails, this man does it regularly: http://www.newsweek.com/2016/11/11/d...ts-515120.html

    Finally and most importantly, nuclear weapons. This 60 Minutes segment from a month ago should be read/watched by every voter: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/whos-min...clear-weapons/ For those of you with a short attention span, read the last few lines of a conversation with Admiral Haney who is leads the US Strategic Command:
    "David Martin: Have you ever had the conversation with yourself, well, what if the president issued an order to use nuclear weapons and I didn’t agree with it. Would I carry out that order?

    Cecil Haney: The president expects me, as his combatant commander, to provide him the best military advice I have. So he would expect me to voice my opinion.

    David Martin: You would have a voice but if you disagreed with a decision . . .

    Cecil Haney: I’m a military man and we follow the orders of our commander-in-chief."

    If this doesn't give you chills, I don't know what could. Trump has had limited powers to date. Having him in the oval office would be nothing short of the re-rising of Adolph Hitler - this time with nuclear weapons.

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    It doesn't give me any chills at all because if Donald Trump wants to sue or not pay ISIS or North Korea I am all for it. I find it ridiculous that you and others are worried about him nuking some country on a whim. And deleting emails is not the big deal here. The big deal is that they existed in the first place on a non-secure server. As someone who has held and has worked in environments where security clearances are required I cannot believe she is not already in prison... but she might be soon enough.

    What is vastly more dangerous than Donald Trump is the amount of voters who would knowingly vote for someone like HRC just because they don't like The Donald's hair or the way he talks about people. And I have seen plenty of instances of that.

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    thank you david for being a voice of reason.

    first off, there are enough people who will blindly follow the person in charge, any person in charge, that if trump called out to turn rosie o'donnel into glass, they would try to make it happen, and i think they would probably succeed.

    secondly, even if he couldn't make it happen, the idea that he would try is all i need to be terrified of what the man would do to your country and the world in general.

    Quote Originally Posted by dkumpula View Post
    When we are talking about someone with the erratic, emotional behavior that we've all been watching, I don't think there is any limit to what Trump might do with more power than he has now.

    Recent examples include suing or threatening to sue the press and anyone he feels has 'treated him very very unfairly', including a dozen women who said he did to them exactly what he bragged about to Billy Bush and the newspaper(the New York Times) that published the articles that detailed it. In fact this man has been involved in thousands of lawsuits. An article was submitted to a legal body for publication in their magazine describing Trump's litigious bullying over the years, but they were afraid to publish it because they didn't want to get sued by Trump. Other newspapers like the Wall Street Journal also didn't publish unflattering articles about Trump for the same fear. Trump's daily comments about how the free press are "the worst" (and worse) should give pause to anyone who believes in the First Amendment.

    Money is another weapon he's regularly yielded including not paying thousands of contractors, banks, and investors - oh and federal state, local governments (aka taxes). Its a con game that's gone on for decades. Make big promises then don't deliver leaving someone else to hold the bag.

    Oh and for those of you who love to talk about how bad Hillary was for deleting emails, this man does it regularly: http://www.newsweek.com/2016/11/11/d...ts-515120.html

    Finally and most importantly, nuclear weapons. This 60 Minutes segment from a month ago should be read/watched by every voter: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/whos-min...clear-weapons/ For those of you with a short attention span, read the last few lines of a conversation with Admiral Haney who is leads the US Strategic Command:
    "David Martin: Have you ever had the conversation with yourself, well, what if the president issued an order to use nuclear weapons and I didn’t agree with it. Would I carry out that order?

    Cecil Haney: The president expects me, as his combatant commander, to provide him the best military advice I have. So he would expect me to voice my opinion.

    David Martin: You would have a voice but if you disagreed with a decision . . .

    Cecil Haney: I’m a military man and we follow the orders of our commander-in-chief."

    If this doesn't give you chills, I don't know what could. Trump has had limited powers to date. Having him in the oval office would be nothing short of the re-rising of Adolph Hitler - this time with nuclear weapons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swamidog View Post
    thank you david for being a voice of reason.

    first off, there are enough people who will blindly follow the person in charge, any person in charge, that if trump called out to turn rosie o'donnel into glass, they would try to make it happen, and i think they would probably succeed.

    secondly, even if he couldn't make it happen, the idea that he would try is all i need to be terrified of what the man would do to your country and the world in general.
    Can you point to anything in his past that would indicate that he would do anything like that? Can you point to any physical threats or actions where he did anything other than talk? Are you really worried that he might take twitter to the next level? I'm more worried about a woman who has no clue how to respond to an invasion similar to how she did absolutely nothing to help prepare for or defend attacks in Libya. It seems ridiculous to worry about some hypothetical situation that is extremely unlikely when you have a person with a history or really being inept at doing anything and actually helping to result in harm to Americans. Real world or hypothetical world? Which one do you choose to live in? Nevermind, you already answered.

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    It's funny, I though the GOP was the only party that used fear mongering...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnYayas View Post
    It doesn't give me any chills at all because if Donald Trump wants to sue or not pay ISIS or North Korea I am all for it. I find it ridiculous that you and others are worried about him nuking some country on a whim. And deleting emails is not the big deal here. The big deal is that they existed in the first place on a non-secure server. As someone who has held and has worked in environments where security clearances are required I cannot believe she is not already in prison... but she might be soon enough.

    What is vastly more dangerous than Donald Trump is the amount of voters who would knowingly vote for someone like HRC just because they don't like The Donald's hair or the way he talks about people. And I have seen plenty of instances of that.
    Rest assured, 'The Donald's' hair is just the icing on the cake as I see it. Actually, I would be delighted to see Hillary elected and suddenly impeached on day one so that Kaine could take over- he doesn't have all that baggage and could be much better suited to reach across to aisle which is something we need now.

    I voted for Kasich in the primary (OK, I'm from Ohio), as he seemed like the only reasonable adult in the room- he (or Kermit the frog if he had chosen to run as a Republican) could have crushed Hillary, and now here we stand on the precipice of a 'dimpled chads' election drama that could well go into extra innings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnYayas View Post
    Can you point to anything in his past that would indicate that he would do anything like that? Can you point to any physical threats or actions where he did anything other than talk? Are you really worried that he might take twitter to the next level?
    You're kidding, right?? He has threatened physical violence on both Hillary Clinton and on others many time in the past year. Talking about having someone killed as a nominee for POTUS (especially when you have a following of millions of very emotional people) is a threat, not just talk. Some examples off the top of my head that everyone will remember with links to remind everyone from what have traditionally been considered reliable mainstream news outlets:

    1. Threatening HRC with 'the second amendment people might do something about her' if she becomes president --> Link
    2. Repeated threats to jail HRC if he becomes president -->Link
    3. Threatening to kill the FAMILIES of terrorists -->Link
    4. Threatening that his supporters would riot if he wasn't made the nominee for the Republican ticket--> <Link1> <Link 2>


    "A person seeking to be President of the United States should not suggest violence in any way."

    Listen, whether you hate Clinton for the very dumb move of setting up a private email server (despite Colin Powell doing the same), you don't like filling out a time card that you blame Obama (and HRC for some reason), or his racist/nationalist views really just resonate with you, then fine. You are certainly entitled to your opinion as long as we still have a right to free speech. However, let's not pretend that what happened, didn't happen. That's akin to denying the Holocaust in its early days.

    Personally, I wish I could keep Obama in office. The unemployment rate is very low. Al Queda and ISIS are on the run. Bin Laden has been at the bottom of the ocean for a long time. Job pay increased by the highest amount in 7 years this quarter. My investments have kicked ass over the past 7 years. (Remember the chaos that the prior administration sat through and did nothing to quell?) Millions of people have access to health care that did not before (my wife was one of them who could not get health care 6 years ago while between jobs simply because she was pregnant - and was laid off for being pregnant no less). Lasering is better than ever! Sure, lots of things need to be done: reducing climate change, improving race relations, improving wages for the middle class, etc., but I can't think of a time over the past hundred years when things were better than right now.

    Finally a thought for the Christians here. If your lord and savior reappeared today, would you really think he'd support Orange Hitler over Grandma Nixon? Which is truly 'the lesser of evils'?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dkumpula View Post
    You're kidding, right?? He has threatened physical violence on both Hillary Clinton and on others many time in the past year. Talking about having someone killed as a nominee for POTUS (especially when you have a following of millions of very emotional people) is a threat, not just talk. Some examples off the top of my head that everyone will remember with links to remind everyone from what have traditionally been considered reliable mainstream news outlets:

    1. Threatening HRC with 'the second amendment people might do something about her' if she becomes president --> Link
    2. Repeated threats to jail HRC if he becomes president -->Link
    3. Threatening to kill the FAMILIES of terrorists -->Link
    4. Threatening that his supporters would riot if he wasn't made the nominee for the Republican ticket--> <Link1> <Link 2>


    "A person seeking to be President of the United States should not suggest violence in any way."

    Listen, whether you hate Clinton for the very dumb move of setting up a private email server (despite Colin Powell doing the same), you don't like filling out a time card that you blame Obama (and HRC for some reason), or his racist/nationalist views really just resonate with you, then fine. You are certainly entitled to your opinion as long as we still have a right to free speech. However, let's not pretend that what happened, didn't happen. That's akin to denying the Holocaust in its early days.

    Personally, I wish I could keep Obama in office. The unemployment rate is very low. Al Queda and ISIS are on the run. Bin Laden has been at the bottom of the ocean for a long time. Job pay increased by the highest amount in 7 years this quarter. My investments have kicked ass over the past 7 years. (Remember the chaos that the prior administration sat through and did nothing to quell?) Millions of people have access to health care that did not before (my wife was one of them who could not get health care 6 years ago while between jobs simply because she was pregnant - and was laid off for being pregnant no less). Lasering is better than ever! Sure, lots of things need to be done: reducing climate change, improving race relations, improving wages for the middle class, etc., but I can't think of a time over the past hundred years when things were better than right now.

    Finally a thought for the Christians here. If your lord and savior reappeared today, would you really think he'd support Orange Hitler over Grandma Nixon? Which is truly 'the lesser of evils'?
    If you really believe the above then I guess that gives me a glimpse into the mind of a Hillary supporter. You don't live in the same reality I do.

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