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    Default Drone Guys, KISS YOUR RIGHTS GOOD BYE

    The FAA NRPM COMMENTS END ON MARCH 2. COMMENT NOW TO AVOID THIS DRACONIAN LEGISLATION.

    Imagine no drones over 250 grams at SELEM...

    https://fpvfc.org/remote-id-nprm-guide?gclid=CjwKCAiA7t3yBRADEiwA4GFlIzWXOBMIt6i6tE vtrAwga3u32d8Cn5JxceBZrZd04aAoZ4Bra-N9aRoCMtgQAvD_BwE

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    Default This is happening.

    This governmental bullying is out of control. As a drone pilot I am writing down the changes to the legislation i would like re worded and changed. If you have a drone or are getting one, read up on the impending restrictions.
    Will there be three phase!!!!

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    I'm a model airplane type, I'm not into anything that goes over the horizon or has an autopilot with autonomy. In fact, having had several negitive experiences, including being buzzed by a Electric RC chopper and several drones in the course of my duties on campus, I'm not big on RPV or over the horizon anything.

    400 and 400 is actually fine by me. But I read that NRPM as going way too far. The AMA does not speak for me, nor do I wish to be restricted to being a member of a club, and not being able to fly on my friend's 70 ACRE farm.

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    Yep, I'm a slope/glider pilot and we've had the new 'drone' registration process for 250g and above since November.
    Aside from my fundamental disagreement with the use of the term 'drone' and all the images used being predominantly of multi-rotors (which we seem to have got mixed up in as hobbyists) I've decided to f*ck them off.
    I fly on remote hills, lets see the coppers come and even find me up there.
    OVer here you can belong to the BMFA as a 'countryman' member, which means unaffiliated, which suits slope flyers very well, as many sites are public access with unrestricted flying.
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    You are using Bonetti's defense against me, ah?

    I thought it fitting, considering the rocky terrain.

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    5lbs 200 feet high line of sight single engine fixed wing exempt. Ie not a drone. That I can deal with. Their concern is drones.
    also they better have the transponder module available before they pull the trigger
    I really don’t care about that part of it if it’s light cheap and easy. Can be built in receiver.
    Also if there is no internet what do you do?

    i think within in 5 miles of an airport this is fine but beyond that what’s they issue.
    so yea push us out of the city. That’s fine. Not enough room anyway.

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    I asked for 400 foot height, 1000 foot radius around operator, 10 pounds. Waiver option for schools and folks who wish to deviate from the rules. With an exemption created for a micro transponder equipped model that had neither a camera or a waypoint capable Nav system, aka "Traditional Model Aircraft". In the US, if you read enough of the comments to the proposed regs, eventually you find the truth. Read between the lines in this attached little Gem, which is a public document by nature of its submission.

    I intended to ask for Slope Soaring, but forgot. I've never had the chance to fly Slope soaring, but I have been thrilled watching it. I love the "Countryman" concept.

    34,000 Plus comments, including many professional pilots and law enforcement types in opposition. Probably less then five percent in favor, much less.

    See attached.

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    Yeah, over here its been seen as very much paving a way for the commercialisation of the lower airspace for the emerging drone delivery service market (and other related markets)
    An old laser guy I know is in the military and surveillance business of drones, and I believe he is doing very well.
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    You are using Bonetti's defense against me, ah?

    I thought it fitting, considering the rocky terrain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by norty303 View Post
    Yeah, over here its been seen as very much paving a way for the commercialisation of the lower airspace for the emerging drone delivery service market (and other related markets)
    An old laser guy I know is in the military and surveillance business of drones, and I believe he is doing very well.
    34,000 Angry people skewered the FAA in the comments.
    Many comments, including mine, were "Held for Review by Agency"
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    Edit, 51,000 and mine is up now.

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    I thought the limit was 500 grams, not 250. And if your all-up flight weight was above 500 grams all you had to do was register with the FAA and put your number on the drone(s) and on the controller? (Assuming non-commercial use of course; commercial use still requires a part 107 license.)

    Did I miss something here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by buffo View Post
    I thought the limit was 500 grams, not 250. And if your all-up flight weight was above 500 grams all you had to do was register with the FAA and put your number on the drone(s) and on the controller? (Assuming non-commercial use of course; commercial use still requires a part 107 license.)

    Did I miss something here?

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    You missed a lot. In the near future, Type approved /certificated only like a real aircraft. No easy common home builds , Need permission via Bluetooth or WIFI connection to cell phone for engine start, traditional free flight phased out in 2 years, effectively broadcast your position at a minimum of 1 update per second via commercial device. ETC... Basically you need connection to A CELLULAR NETWORK TO FLY 400Height -400 foor lateral restriction without license, . Basically NO FPV. No Free flight traditional model aircraft at other then a limited number of private fields hosted by approved community based organizations, (called a FRIA) then those get phased out , ie no private flying fields after 2 years, 18 and up to fly, Part 107 diminished, LAANC phased out.
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    Thank the Cellular companies, they smelled a future huge market for privatized Air Traffic Control for drone delivery, lobbied to Homeland and FAA, and got what they wanted. Big companies want hobbyists out of airspace so they don't have to build hardware for "See and Avoid".
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    And Buffo, if your flying, your operators position and craft's position will be real time shared public data. Kept for 6 months, too.
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    Worldwide, NOT JUST U.S., a good deal of this is coming out of ICAO
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    Start HERE:
    https://content.dji.com/we-strongly-...not-like-this/
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    I'll attach more files tonight, including the actual proposal and DJIs reply. No Libertarian or Republican could read what they proposed (Which is a political done deal BTW) and sleep well. Makes the post Vegas laser rules read like a walk in the park.
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    EAA opposes and called it Draconian. AOPA said bad idea, DJI said "Deeply Flawed".
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    51,000 people said "NO WAY - DONT DO THIS" in the public comments.

    See ATTACHED

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