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    I have this "mini laser stage lighting" setup (Item NW-S-D03 if that means anything) and I just need to make it write the text I want it to write. It has an SD card and it uses ILDA files. I was wondering if there are any stock template files out there that let you do text, or if I need to learn to code just to accomplish this?

    Also, if this setup ends up being weaker than what I need, are there any starter sets out there that are recommended? I have a green laser pointer which I'm sure is bright enough, so are there any scanners that let you use a laser pointer with them, or do you pretty much just get the whole setup at once?

    Thanks for any information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by james View Post
    You need LaserBoy to do this.
    I agree. I have used LaserBoy to accomplish a variety of specialized tasks and James has always helped me find a way to do what I need with LaserBoy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eryqtx View Post
    ... Also, if this setup ends up being weaker than what I need, are there any starter sets out there that are recommended? I have a green laser pointer which I'm sure is bright enough, so are there any scanners that let you use a laser pointer with them, or do you pretty much just get the whole setup at once?

    Thanks for any information.
    Long wait for a reply, but to answer your question and for the benefit of others:
    Yes, there are inexpensive galvo kits being sold on Ebay & Aliexpress that can be used with laser pointers. They come in a range of (reported) kpps galvos, x/y block, driver boards, power supply and a show card that contains demo imagery. There are inexpensive RGB laser diode modules, as well. These are good places to start for noobs, because less is lost from mistakes.
    IOW, you can connect the components together, stick a beam on their mirrors and get some images. From there, you're on your own.
    Most of the show cards have ILDA inputs that you can use with with an ILDA DAC + compatible show software.
    But, don't plan on getting permission from safety authorities to perform public shows. These have no safety features. "Ya only gets what ya pays fer."
    Like you, I started by purchasing an inexpensive fully functional projector (I liked it's case) that has the same components (just like yours does) and have since upgraded. El cheapo components will still be adequate for repurposing inside a lumia projector, though. Things to consider.
    Hope this info helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by james View Post
    You need LaserBoy to do this.
    Need is the wrong term here. You can user Laserboy but there is other free software out there that will do the same task but a bit easier learning curve.

    Norm's Laser show. Very, almost painfully, basic but free and with a gui and simple frame editor. It also has a fun little harmonograph generator: https://ctrnd.com/NormLaserShow/Downloads.htm
    Laserworld has a little more powerful show editor. Still pretty basic but it gets the job done. https://www.showeditor.com/en

    Those are some examples. There are free software options out there. Just sayin, there isn't just one.
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    It's current, kept up to date, comes with 12 vector fonts and has tech support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by absolom7691 View Post
    Need is the wrong term here. You can user Laserboy but there is other free software out there that will do the same task but a bit easier learning curve.

    Norm's Laser show. Very, almost painfully, basic but free and with a gui and simple frame editor. It also has a fun little harmonograph generator: https://ctrnd.com/NormLaserShow/Downloads.htm
    Laserworld has a little more powerful show editor. Still pretty basic but it gets the job done. https://www.showeditor.com/en

    Those are some examples. There are free software options out there. Just sayin, there isn't just one.
    Thanks for sharing. Had a gander at Showeditor and the 1st thing that caught my eye is that it supports up to 16 projectors. But, didn't see a list of compatible ILDA DACs. That led me to a link to Lasergraph DSP, which led to this ILD Render + Lasergraph DSP video.
    I noticed the ease of installation, wide array of compatible DACs, full featured GUI, and simple process for ILDA conversion from 3D Blender graphics.
    This appears to cover the majority of obstacles for generating animated wireframe laser graphics... exactly the functionality that I plan to add to my T4 Laser Synth.
    On the other hand, my projector has it's own show card with a uSD slot. Haven't delved into the ILDA file world, yet. Didn't exist back in my hey day and don't need it for generating cycloids.
    Am I correct in assuming that I could use the above apps to generate the ILDA files, save them onto uSD and use the projector's DMX controls to select which sequence to project and control basics like size, position, etc. via DMX?
    Looky here, who says, "Ya cain't teach an old dog new tricks?"
    That there feller wouldn't know his butt from a hole in the ground, I reckon.
    All depends upon the old dog, don't it?
    Thanks!
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    I keep forgetting about ILD Render! It looks like a really great utility.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheHermit View Post
    Thanks for sharing. Had a gander at Showeditor and the 1st thing that caught my eye is that it supports up to 16 projectors. But, didn't see a list of compatible ILDA DACs. That led me to a link to Lasergraph DSP, which led to this ILD Render + Lasergraph DSP video.
    I noticed the ease of installation, wide array of compatible DACs, full featured GUI, and simple process for ILDA conversion from 3D Blender graphics.
    This appears to cover the majority of obstacles for generating animated wireframe laser graphics... exactly the functionality that I plan to add to my T4 Laser Synth.
    Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHermit View Post
    Thanks for sharing. Had a gander at Showeditor and the 1st thing that caught my eye is that it supports up to 16 projectors. But, didn't see a list of compatible ILDA DACs. That led me to a link to Lasergraph DSP, which led to this ILD Render + Lasergraph DSP video.
    I noticed the ease of installation, wide array of compatible DACs, full featured GUI, and simple process for ILDA conversion from 3D Blender graphics.
    This appears to cover the majority of obstacles for generating animated wireframe laser graphics... exactly the functionality that I plan to add to my T4 Laser Synth.
    Thanks!
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    Any time! It is recognized that the free options are not of abundance and the abilities of said software is limited but there are options! Finding a good player with live controls via midi or DMX input is where the pickins' get slim. It's primarily the reason I use Pangolin Beyond. I generate abstracts with the base harmonics I am looking for and then map attributes of the abstract to my midi console so I can "play" it live. I'll map AM, FM, along with color mods and other modulators to my midi controller within about 2~3hz +/- of the base harmonic so I can change it in real-time along with the music without generating hash. It keeps me locked in the Pangolin sphere but I wouldn't be able to share my files anyway since all a person would get would be the base abstract. They would have no way to "Play" it live anyway. So, I'm okay locked in their bubble.

    Anyway, I don't want to hijack a thread about text to ild.
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