To the laser show software companies

[norty303]

Bill, I've sent you an email confirming the orientation, and there was another one prior to that email as well cheers

[absolom7691]

My only concern now is; I hope Pangolin is producing a TON of these things. If they are priced competitively with the upper-end Chinese scanners, there is going to be a feeding frenzy.

The price and size of these is going to make DI builds extremely compact and inexpensive. 10~15 of these projectors hanging on a truss around a dance floor is going to be viable and also not monetarily astronomical. A 6" cube would be probably be about as big as you'd need.

[Pangolin]

Planters,

I really think you'd be more interested in our Saturn 1. It allows 60K with a single-ended amp. We showed this at ILDA. Saturn 5 is really meant for larger mirrors, but if that's what you need, then fine. Also, sure, we'll be at PW and be bringing our whole line (now four separate models) of scanners. We'll no doubt have our digital amp in production by then (we have prototypes now and can go to production at any time -- just production of our other products is taking our capacity at the moment).

Norty, I saw your other email, but it was cryptic. It wasn't a positive assertion, but rather a referred/negative assertion like "if it comes in from this angle, then that's not the angle", but the problem is, it required the viewer to interpret things exactly like you do -- exactly what is "this angle" in the first place, etc. So I wanted to get something more concrete, and that's one reason I made the video. "Does it look like Bill's projector shown in the video yes or no"? Now we're getting somewhere

Bill

[Pangolin]

My only concern now is; I hope Pangolin is producing a TON of these things. If they are priced competitively with the upper-end Chinese scanners, there is going to be a feeding frenzy.

Absolom, for the Compact 506, this is built on our VRAD-506 actuator platform. We built 200 such actuators just this past week. Production should not be a problem, and we're licensing the design to two other companies who will also be, themselves, making a lot of these.

10~15 of these projectors hanging on a truss around a dance floor is going to be viable and also not monetarily astronomical. A 6" cube would be probably be about as big as you'd need.

Yes, in fact we ourselves ordered 8 projectors without scanners, into which we will place our scanners and then have a real show-room gig that we can further use to make videos and show people the best ways to control many projectors using both QS and BEYOND.

Bill

[norty303]

I can confirm that the scaner block orientation you have in the video is the orientation I require.

Hi Bill
I've quoted what I wrote in my email. Is that really not clear what I'm after?
In case it isn't, yes I want it as you have it in the video
Thanks
Adam

[absolom7691]

Production should not be a problem, and we're licensing the design to two other companies who will also be, themselves, making a lot of these.

Great news. Backorder sucks, as we have seen with the Flexmods in the past. Andrew builds a batch and they're rapidly gobbled up and then sold at a premium by others.

Awesome work, Bill. With these making it to market and the upcoming 1W 520nm diode, 2014 is going to bring some very interesting things to the laser world.

[Laser Electronics Ltd]

Hi All
531nm and better modulation.
Clive.

[White-Light]

Hi All
531nm and better modulation.
Clive.

Must admit Clive, I'm not a fan of 520nm from what I've seen. I'm unsure about the green but by far the worst effect is that on every video I've seen, the yellow and oranges look brown tinted, dull and "dirty". Now whether that's just a camera artefact or a true reflection, I don't know. But I won't be buying a 520nm any time soon.

In fact my much awaited frequency is 488nm as I'd love to build a very small low powered and cheap laser circa 20mw or so, for home use to recreate the early 90's rave effects. ATM both lack of budget and high cost of diodes prevent this from becoming a reality.

@ Bill, when I asked if they were the Pro versions, I realised it was the 506. I just wondered if it was the Pro 506 with the position sensor or the non Pro 506 without. Either way, so far as a causal observer can tell from the video, the precision and linearity looked very impressive.

[absolom7691]

Al, I was hesitant with 520 at first, too. I have to say, it is pretty green and does fit. It isn't too blue or even cyan. It is green. Not as yellow as 532 but it is definitely green. I have found that images and video do NOT show the actual color hue correctly. Yellows are softer, when mixed with 638 and cyans look closer to argon when mixed with 450. When mixed with 473, looks spot on to an argon laser's raw output. If I had a spare, I would send one to you to try out because it really is a nice color and it is not a substitute for green, it is green. I did a few side by sides with 520, 532, and 543. I am amazed at the very slight color variation over so broad a spectrum. Perhaps Steve can interject more here but I am wondering if this is because our eye is so sensitive to green that it is almost "washed out" and we don't see huge color variations over the span of 20+nm like we do with other colors.

Sorry guys, didn't mean to derail this derailed thread. Bill, I am wondering if you should start a new thread that is dedicated to the 506 and its updates.

[Pangolin]

Hi Bill
I've quoted what I wrote in my email. Is that really not clear what I'm after?
In case it isn't, yes I want it as you have it in the video
Thanks
Adam

Hi Adam,

This could be one of those "did you get my email" type questions (my least favorite question by the way because it's so imprecise -- which email?). You and I have passed around many emails lately, at least one of them from iPad saying something like "if the picture shows this, then I want it to be the other way". It could very well be that, after you sent that email, you sent another which is clearer.

In any event, what you need is clear now, and I'll get those new mirrors mounted and get it shipped off to you in the next few days.

@absolom, the irony is that I never intended to discuss this product to this level of depth on this forum. I think the better source for questions and answers should be our own forum, in which we announced the '506 even before it was announced on PL:
http://www.pangolin.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1771

Bill