Who is going to make those 100 amateur shows? Other hobbyists? Then what's to say they won't *also* use music you don't like?
You haven't even looked at the shows that come with Pangolin and you're already bashing them because you think they come with music you don't care about. How can you complain if you don't even know what music is used?
No, not everyone. I understand that it's expensive and that not everyone can afford it. But it *is* a great way to start. You get some fun things to watch while you learn how to create shows. Then you get a lot of frames to use to create your own shows. Eventually though, you'll have to learn how to draw your own frames if you want more shows. But by that time you'll either be well on your way to learning how to use your software, or you'll be in a position to purchase more frames (if you're in the business of producing laser shows.)
So those are the only 2 groups you ever listen to?
You must be the most narrow minded person on the planet then.
Besides, for the beam shows at least, you can play several different pieces of music and the shows still look pretty cool.
As to your comment that they're all "worthless", well, I think it's very premature to make such a claim before you've even seen what is in the shows.
First, there's no "Britney Spears". There are some classical numbers, some classic rock numbers, a few pop tunes from the 80's, some more modern rock numbers, a few country songs, some Euro-dance numbers, and even some stuff I've never heard before.
If you don't like anything in that eclectic mix of music, then by all means create your own shows. Perhaps you are one of the few people that are gifted when it comes to being able to hand draw things. But I haven't seen you touting any ILDA frames or animations that you've done so far, which leads me to believe that you haven't actually done much work in that area. I suggest that before you trivialize the show creation process, you try to build a 5 minute, all-original show yourself.
Just as most members here are willing to share files they've created. I've created two entire shows (one consisting entirely of original abstracts) and put them up on the FTP server for people to download. That's sort of expected in the hobbyist field... But none of the "hobbyist" shows I've seen come close to the entertainment value of the professional shows that come with Pangolin.
But that's not "KMFDM or Ministry", so by your own words those shows would be useless to you.
Well, then think about how much cooler the Pangolin shows (which do *not* suck) will be when you watch them.
You're wrong. I'm not in the business, and I don't make money on my lasers. (Quite the opposite!) In fact, *most* people here are firmly in the hobbyist camp. But like them, I nevertheless appreciate a good laser show. I *enjoy* watching good laser shows. (So do my friends and neighbors!) And I am very happy that I have a good collection of shows that I can watch whenever I want to geek out with my lasers. It's sort of like having a large DVD collection. More is better, because after a while the same old movie gets booring. But if you've got a wide selection, you can be entertained night after night.
I am *absolutely* in it for the cool lights and music. In fact, one of the coolest things about Pangolin (in my opinion) is the AVS Laser Visualiser plug in for Winamp. It's basically a fully-automatic, beat-syncronized, live laser show that changes with the music. It's as awesome as the standard AVS visualizer that you have on the screen, but with the added bonus that it's coming from your laser projector! You can customize the presets, build your own presets, and change them on the fly. I honestly believe that it ALONE is cool enough to warrant the purchase of a Pangolin LD-2000 system.
Oh, and you can use it with whatever music you want (including "KMFDM or Ministry"). You can even use it with the line-in jack on your computer's sound card, so if you want to play your guitar (or piano, or other instrument of choice) to make your own music, you can *still* have a custom lasershow playing along at the same time.
Part of the reason it's going nowhere is because you have a habit of replying to a well-structured comment with a kurt sentence or two. That's not a discussion, it's a blow off. And if you continue to blow people off (after first ASKING for their advice), then people will stop offering it to you. That's why DZ snapped back at you. (Personally, I agree with his sentiment.)
When people don't agree with you, rather than at least listening to what they have to say and maybe trying to reach some middle ground, you simply turn them off and go your own way. While that's certainly your perogative, it can get mighty lonely down that road. Are you really better off going it alone? And if you say "yes", then one has to wonder what you hope to gain from the forums here...
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Originally Posted by carmangary
) and bring it to the community to provide us another means of accomplishing what we have all set up to do… make pretty pictures & patters with some of the most amazing light sources on earth! 
