To the laser show software companies

[flecom]

Well, I AM creating something. It's called Spaghetti and will be free. My benchmark is Mamba Black. So expect something as good or better.

yep saw that post after i made mine... my comments still stand both here and in the other thread

[Pangolin]

I am just curious about something Gary. Exactly how long do you think it will take you to create something the likes of MAMBA?

Your posts seem to come across indicating that this can be done easily. That you can create something that "blows MAMBA and MONCHA out of the water", but this is a pretty bold statement.

I have only seen MAMBA on three occasions -- twice at a tradeshow, and once at LaserFreak, never for more than around 2 minutes, and never closer than around 10 feet away. And I have never seen MONCHA before in my life. Still and yet, my impression is that these guys have year's worth of work into these programs.

I think about the time that any of our programmers spend accomplishing what seems like the simplest extension, and it just reminds me that software takes a damn long time to develop. AND THESE GUYS ARE AT THE TOP OF THEIR GAME!!

So whenever I hear someone say that they can blow another program out of the water, well, it seems disingenuous, or possibly even arrogant... Heck, even Alpha Lite has been under development for years!!

If you are a super programmer who can write thousands of lines of code per day, each and every day, well, that's one thing. But if you are really that much of a super programmer, I know of a company or two who would want to put you to work and pay you a big wage .

Best regards,

William Benner

[carmangary]

Maybe you don't realize that I have been working on various aspects of my software for about a year now.

[DZ]

Maybe you don't realize that I have been working on various aspects of my software for about a year now.

Thats great carmangary, when can we take a look or download it to help offer pointers and new ideas?

[carmangary]

I have about a weeks worth of work to do before I'm ready to start giving it out. But, I have to find time to work on it first. I have been busy lately.

[JohnS]

Hi,

when Bill says the way how laser shows are done will change redical, he is right. But I dont think that many traditional laser show software concepts and companys will survive what comes up during the next 10 years.

Lasershow will be driven by a mass market. I dont know, who of you saw, what was presented at the CES this year. Fully functional handheld solid state laser projector designed to do hight speed raster scanning for video playback. Video at
http://www.iphone-ticker.de/2008/01/...mer/#more-1730

Schneider came up with laser TV in the late 90s but it was to expensive and to complex, but what Microvision has is small, cheap and opens a mass market. PDA, notebook, mobile phone with laser projectors.
And all these devices could be used as lasershow projectors. Do you REALLY think, todays laser show software concepts will play ANY role if you have some million potential laser show creators and consumers taking this feature as an included gadget?
I dont think so. If these devices show up as additional features in consumer electronic, consumers want to have a tool for creating and distributing lasershows the easy way and without special and expensive hardware. The really big software companies will develop solutinons. You will render some kind of MPx file and play it like a video.

In 3-5 years we will have these small devices in high end notebooks.
Some years later we will have it in out living room for the big screen.

There is no need for a new ILDA file format and no need for the whole ILDA disussing another decade if the DB25 connector may be redefined as connector. And there is no need for another universal point orientated file format. This all will be obsolent soon.
The whole lasershow industry (and even freaks) seems to keep on discussing and developing improvements to "analog tape recorders", while the CD has been presented at the CES. I hope, you get my point.

I saw this CES Microvision video some weeks ago and in the second I saw it, it was totally clear to me, that lasershow as we know it today it THE PAST.

JohnS

[Banthai]

we have all heard about these devices, but that is the first time i have actualy seen one working for real.

and im guessing they are using diode lasers rather than DPSS by the size of the unit ....

i wonder what the power is and if they are greater than 5mW how do they get around the varience issues etc....

all the best .... Karl

[godfrey]

Just wait until you see what we have in store for laser show creation in 2008...

Best regards,

William Benner

Holy crap, Bill's invented a mind reading device! But my question is, with this thought reading device, will it make my projector have more powerful beams?


Does it feature "mind reading technology"? <ack> I hate that word - it is so over used in commercials.



Phil


p.s. If anyone could do it, Benner would be the first. Albeit, my mind wouldn't be that hard to read - you could do it in a few minutes with a 300 baud modem.

[VJ AIWAZ]

maybe not so far off

Brain control headset

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7254078.stm

[tocket]

Do you REALLY think, todays laser show software concepts will play ANY role if you have some million potential laser show creators and consumers taking this feature as an included gadget?
I dont think so. If these devices show up as additional features in consumer electronic, consumers want to have a tool for creating and distributing lasershows the easy way and without special and expensive hardware. The really big software companies will develop solutinons. You will render some kind of MPx file and play it like a video.

I really don't think this technology can or will replace the traditional laser shows. I say so because they use a completely different technology incapable of delivering even close to the same intensity as a scanning system. Because the lasers' power is divided by the entire picture area regardless of what the projector is showing they would require extremely powerful lasers to make beam effects. I don't think the design is even capable of using such powerful lasers.

To illustrate what I mean, consider the two laser designs projecting a 10x10m picture. The picture has only 1 bright spot, say 1x1cm for simplicity. The traditional laser scanner can deliver its full effect to that one spot, but this new technology can only deliver (0.01*0.01)/(10*10) of its effect. That means the traditional laser scanner will appear 1 million times brighter. Do you still believe so much in this new technology?

However, there is one positive side effect to this technology. If it becomes widely used we will see lots of cheap laser diodes in all the colors we want.