these diode are quiet nice , oval beam though through axixz housings but two together sorts that out though seems to be a nicer colour red than the rohms that i was using and much brighter shall put them in projector tommorrow and hopfully to get yellow would be nice to measure the power i am driving them @270ma is that to much? anyone got a link to the data sheet for these thanks again dave ,next time maybe a group buy for 635nm or are they hard to collimate?