LaserBoy 09-01-2008 !!!

[carmangary]

Two sides to every story...

I believe Bill's side. But, assuming James' has some bit of truth to it, the only reason I can imagine they would change it to break his code is that James really pissed them off. That's the conclusion I come to. So, what did you do James?

[James Lehman]

I got it.

It made LaserBoy work beautifully too. It made it possible for me to do things with lasers in color that I don't think have ever been done before.

I seriously want to apologize to you personally. My remark about going through the agony of installing Spaghetti was totally over the top. I am very sorry for that.

In the thick of it, you seem to always be able to work the threads in a way that although you often play the devil's advocate to me, you eventually come to prove yourself as an ally.

Thank you for that!

James.

[James Lehman]

Bill,

outright laughable
Narcissistic
paranoid
paranoid and delusional.
What do you think ... everyone else but you is a complete idiot?
wrong
you have blinders on
make up your own versions of reality
purposefully waste the time of other people...

All of this came from just your last reply to me.

I have never questioned your intelligence, your motives, your emotional state or your mental health. I've always operated from the point of view that you know exactly what you are talking about. We went through all of this before on alt.lasers and the laserist list. For that very reason, I was invited to the PL by someone who though I might find a much more receptive audience here. You followed me.

This is the court of public opinion. Me thinks thou doth protest too much. You have consistently used rhetoric like this to throw your faithful followers off of the real evidence. Many of them have no idea what this issue is even about. But that doesn't stop them from forming a very negative opinion of me. Kudos. You run a great campaign.

A pile of papers, guaranteed not to have any incriminating evidence, does not impress me. The motivations, emotions and personal conversations that lead up to such actions are never accurately recorded.

At least you now acknowledge that these events actually took place. And you also seem to see the absurdity of the treatment of format 3.

There is nothing incredible about the idea that format 3 was vandalized. I don't think it even deserves to be called unlikely.

James.

[carmangary]

You still talking about format 3? I thought we were all past that. Me thinks you have been in the wine again.

[James Lehman]

No wine for me.

I'm feeling a little better, since yesterday. That really sucked.

James.

[buffo]

I've always operated from the point of view that you know exactly what you are talking about.

BULLSHIT!

You openly accused him of selling a product (the QM-2000) that couldn't read format 2 files (which was an incorrect assertion, btw), even though Bill would need to know what he was talking about re: the format in order to write the code for the QM-2000! Then you continually posted that he "doesn't get it" with regard to the similarities between formats 2 and 3. So how does that equate to "knowing exactly what you are talking about?" Pay attention to your previous posts before you start trying to claim the high moral ground, James...

This vitriol you are receiving is entirely your own fault. *You* were the one that was being confrontational, back when Bill and Patrick were both trying to shed a little light (and sanity) on the subject. May I remind you of some of your earlier posts in this thread:

On the other hand, if everyone here on the PL were to come together and ask Patrick Murphy to fix the ILDA file format, once and for all, then it would all be right! If nothing else, I'd like to know who f**ked it up and why.
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We are all suffering the consequences of some sh*t-head who f**ked it all up for all of us on purpose.
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your answer to question 1 is that you are too old to remember?
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This makes me think YOU don't know what a section 2 or 3 is all about or how it should work! PLEASE describe these "extra smarts" you added! ANY ONE THING!
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You don't really expect me to stop wining and bitching about it now do you? I'm on a roll.
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All the details in the world are not a substitute for one true answer.
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Please don't ever write any code that has anything to do with life support.

Now do you see why people are becoming exasperated with you? Personally, I'm amazed that people held out this long before calling you out for your antics. You ignore hard evidence (details), you accuse the standards committee of being a bunch of shitheads, and you assume (without asking) that everyone else agrees with you in your assertion that the ILDA file standard is fundamentally broken and needs to be fixed. (Hint: we don't!) Furthermore, you assume that your vision of the perfect standard is the only one that should be used. And apparently, "compromise" is not in your vocabulary.

For that very reason, I was invited to the PL by someone who though I might find a much more receptive audience here. You followed me.

Oh really? You honestly think Bill was following you - tracking you down - so he could continue to persecute you here on PL? Did you ever consider the possibility that maybe he found out about the forum through some other means? No - of course you didn't. Because everything has to be a conspiracy against you, right?

This is the court of public opinion.

Yes it is, James. And you are loosing. Badly. And rightfully so.

Me thinks thou doth protest too much.

You think *Bill* protests too much? You are the one protesting here, not him! Sheesh... Talk about cognitive dissonance! (My head just exploded...) No one else was bitching about format 3 until you started all this. Even Carmangary was able to impliment it in his software with only a minor problem early on, despite the fact that he agreed it was a dead standard. So who is protesting too much again?

You have consistently used rhetoric like this to throw your faithful followers off of the real evidence. Many of them have no idea what this issue is even about. But that doesn't stop them from forming a very negative opinion of me. Kudos. You run a great campaign.

You are an enormous fool if you believe that Bill has campaigned to ally all of us against you. Trust me when I say that Bill has *way* more important things to worry about than you, or LaserBoy, or your feelings about the ILDA file format standards!

James, I've said it before and I'll say it again. You've dug your own grave here, with each and every argumentative, confrontational, irrational, and paranoid post you've made. Don't try to blame Bill, or Patrick, or anyone else. Accept the fact that you've been acting like a child for the last several months, and the rest of the forum has finally had enough. And I've had enough as well.

Seriously man... People are putting you in their kill files! I know you've spent time on USNET... You should know that you've got to step *really* far out of line before you hear that "PLONK!" sound... Don't you get it yet? People are writing you off forever because of this issue! Are you so arrogant that you still believe that *everyone* else is wrong and you are right? I would have thought that by now you would have learned to at least question yourself once in a while...

A pile of papers, guaranteed not to have any incriminating evidence, does not impress me. The motivations, emotions and personal conversations that lead up to such actions are never accurately recorded.

So you're saying that meeting minutes, documented discussions about the standard, and pretty much any other hard evidence is completely irrelevant, but your own paranoid *opinions* about the process should be taken as gospel? Is that about right?

Dude, you are really deluding yourself. Get help. Right now. Seriously.

At least you now acknowledge that these events actually took place. And you also seem to see the absurdity of the treatment of format 3. There is nothing incredible about the idea that format 3 was vandalized. I don't think it even deserves to be called unlikely.

Then you are a fool. Standards that are developed by committee are frequently *lousy*. The fact that *you* think there was more to it than that is irrelevant. Without hard evidence to back up your ridiculous vandalism claims, you've got no business ranting away like this. (Especially since Bill and Patrick have offered evidence, along with their testimony of the process, that completely contradicts your claims.)

Just because the standards don't meet your idea of a "pure" or "perfect" format doesn't mean that the folks that developed it were out to screw you over. There are at least a half dozen other, more plausible reasons why things turned out the way they did. (Even without Bill and Patrick's testimony on the matter.)

Furthermore, since you were able to modify LaserBoy to work with the "broken" standard in less than 24 hours, I'd say that the effort to screw you over was a pretty lame attempt... If they were *really* out to get you, don't you think they could have done a better job?

Face it James... You enjoy all the attention this thread is bringing to you. But trust me, it's not the sort of attention any sane person would crave. You are rapidly becoming the laughingstock of the entire forum. Is that really what you want your legacy to be? The guy that wrote his own ILDA frame editor and then ended up being marginalized after he accused pretty much everyone else in the industry of conspiring against him? (Instead of accepting the fact that his software has some real drawbacks, notably the lousy user interface, that were preventing most people from adopting it.)

If you channeled even half the energy you've expended in this thread into improving the Laserboy user interface, maybe more people would be using your software right now. Think about that...

Adam

[James Lehman]

I have already apologized for my comment about installing Spaghetti. I stand behind everything else I wrote.

This is a highly spirited debate. Sometimes I shake the trees to see what falls out. A lot has, just in this thread alone.

I also try to interject a bit of humor and sarcasm every now and then. If you can't see it for what it is, too bad. It's not really your issue anyway. Is it? You don't write code. So shut the f&*K up.

James.

PS. I'm feeling MUCH better now!

[buffo]

This is a highly spirited debate.

So when you go off the deep end, it's a "spirited debate", but when Bill replies in much milder terms you get all pissy? To hell with that! If you can't stand the heat, get your ass out of the kitchen. You were the first one to drop the F-bomb (several times), and you were also the one to go on the offensive. I think everyone has given you *way* more latitude than you deserve. You've used up all your goodwill in my book.

Sometimes I shake the trees to see what falls out.

Is that what you think you're doing? Shaking the trees? Going on a fishing expedition? Because you are *way* off base here. What you are actually doing is WASTING EVERYONE'S TIME. Knock it off already.

You think this is your own personal sandbox where you can tweak the nose of anyone and everyone you wish, just to see what happens? Wrong answer. This is a *public* forum. Learn to play nice with others, or be driven out by the masses. At this point, I'm almost ready to lead the charge myself.

It's not really your issue anyway. Is it? You don't write code.

You said it yourself: this is the court of public opinion. So yeah, it *is* my issue, and Bill's issue, and Stuka's, and Banthai's, and everyone else's too. And I'm sick of it, and sick of you. I also believe I'm not alone in that assessment.

So shut the f&*K up.

Is that what you call sarcasm? Because I call it an attack. And believe me, I can fight back too. However, unlike you, I'm smart enough to realize that a flame war serves no purpose except to pollute the channel with more noise.

This thread has run it's course in my book. And you've finally revealed yourself to be every bit as irrational as people warned me. I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt James. I *really* did. But I am at my end.

Goodbye. (Plonk!)

Adam

[cruch]

(Plonk!)

? Is it over??

[buffo]

Is it for me, Cruch. That "Plonk" you heard was the sound of me adding James Lehman to my ignore list.

Would you believe this is the *first* time in my entire life I've had to do that to someone? Yeah, even after all the time I've spent on BBS's, FidoNet, USNET, IRC, and now web-based forums, this is the first time I've been motivated to put someone in my kill file.

Sad. Really sad.

Adam