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    I guess if there's other folks in the UK that wants some of this stuff we could all get together and place a combined order. That should keep the shipping down to a reasonable level, we may even get a price break.

    How about we ask the seller to put a posting up here on PL with some 'standard' sizes and postage costs. This would save him getting loads of individual enquiries and perhaps get him more business.

    Any thoughts?

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    Jem,

    I found this stuff in the UK but how it compares, I'm not sure. Its available off the roll in fibreglass mesh also (scroll down to the bottom):

    http://www.flyscreenqueen.co.uk/windows.htm

    They do a fibreglass based mesh as well as a poyester mesh, the main difference appearing to be increased rigidity with fibreglass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RGBLaserFan View Post
    Jem,

    I found this stuff in the UK but how it compares, I'm not sure. Its available off the roll in fibreglass mesh also (scroll down to the bottom):

    http://www.flyscreenqueen.co.uk/windows.htm

    They do a fibreglass based mesh as well as a poyester mesh, the main difference appearing to be increased rigidity with fibreglass.
    does look good - liking the rigidity with the fibreglass - guessing it would highly fire safe too
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    looks great make sure you bring it to the 3.5 meet
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    Coincidence?
    I have projected my laser on something similar to this - some sort of net against mosquito's next to my bed this afternoon, and it looked... well... my laser has only... er... 2K scan speed .

    So I discovered my laser is not good for graphic shows .

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    Quote Originally Posted by andy_con View Post
    looks great make sure you bring it to the 3.5 meet
    I'm planning to.
    Just hope that the hall that Jim's arranged is high enough.

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    Hey Sofo -

    Quote Originally Posted by soforene View Post
    Cheers for the fogger tip dsli_Jon.
    Sure thing! - and just fyi, we use the same method for our smaller, indoor scrims, that we use for the giant ones - just use a smaller-diameter cable across the top (just make sure it's vinyl-clad, so no chafing, etc) and even 1/2" PVC thru the bottom pockey will suffice for weight - here's another good 'pass-thru' example, indoors...

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    Hey Jem -

    Quote Originally Posted by Jem View Post
    How about we ask the seller to put a posting up here on PL with some 'standard' sizes and postage costs. This would save him getting loads of individual enquiries and perhaps get him more business.
    We have a couple scrims on order with David right now - I'll talk to him about this, and see his thoughts - good idea to have a single or limited-point of requests, so he does not get inundated, and tell everybody to just go bugger-off, ya know?...

    What sizes would be of interest over on that side of the pond? Here, seems like 2 x 3-ratio sizes are pretty common, and 'widescreen' sizes, too (2 x 4) - ie: we use 10' x 10', 12' x 15', 20' x 20', 20' x 30' and 40' x 60' (!!) - 20' x 30' is the biggest we've tested / use outdoors - too scared to try the granddaddy on a show, but maybe sometime... ...lemme know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by soforene View Post
    I'm planning to.
    Just hope that the hall that Jim's arranged is high enough.
    excellent, look forward to it
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsli_jon View Post
    Hey Sofo -



    Sure thing! - and just fyi, we use the same method for our smaller, indoor scrims, that we use for the giant ones - just use a smaller-diameter cable across the top (just make sure it's vinyl-clad, so no chafing, etc) and even 1/2" PVC thru the bottom pockey will suffice for weight - here's another good 'pass-thru' example, indoors...
    Sounds like some good tips there Jon. I can see something wrong with that video though John as there's a lot of laser light actually passing through the scrim as beams. Maybe its the laser power your using or maybe the scrims a bit too open weave, but I personally find the beams distract and obscure the graphics behind that are on the scrim.

    Compare your scrim to Soforenes, and you'll see what I mean, his beams seem to stop dead at the scrim (apologies for the picture size I can't control the size as its linked to Soferen's gallery):




    Most other scrim based shows are like this so you obviously have a problem somewhere with either laser power or weave size as you're getting too much beam penetration.

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    Hey RGB -

    Quote Originally Posted by RGBLaserFan View Post
    Sounds like some good tips there Jon. I can see something wrong with that video though John as there's a lot of laser light actually passing through the scrim as beams. Maybe its the laser power your using or maybe the scrims a bit too open weave, but I personally find the beams distract and obscure the graphics behind that are on the scrim.

    Most other scrim based shows are like this so you obviously have a problem somewhere with either laser power or weave size as you're getting too much beam penetration.
    lol - that is the whole POINT, my friend! - pass-thru - what you are not realizing is that the 'obscurity' of the graphics in the video are only because #1, the video-quality of this clip was crap to begin-with (VHS-C >> digital, scaled 2x >> YT) then YuckTube codecs degrade it even further - worsened by the fact that #2, this particular camera's CCD can't 'take' the extreme-high contrast of 16 Watts of Laser-light blasting-out from darkness, (and made 3x worse by a lot of fog/haze being in the air) while it is in 'slow-shutter' mode, which is used to cut-down on the typical 'flicker' and 'missing segments' you see on most videos of laser shows (due to interference between the scan-rate of the camera and the scan-rate of the galvos) - so, perfectly-accurate, 'how-it-looks-in-real-life' clarity is not possible via this method, because this camera always 'blows-out' the contrast... the graphcis + atmospherics are beautiful in real-life..

    So the point is, you're making a judgment on something not looking good, when your method of evaluating how it really looks in real-life is 'handicapped' (video) - still-shots give a better idea of the true clarity and crispness of the graphics - ie: this...



    ...gives a much better idea of how crisp, yet engaging it looks in real-life, even with a high-power system. Even so, nothing can match the real-life experience of being there, so next time you are in the US, why not come to one of our shows, where we're using one of these scrims with a high-power WL, and then post a review?!

    The only purpose of YouTube is simply to give people an 'accessible-from-anywhere' idea of how the lasers are synced with music (because a lot of potential-clients who've never seen a laser-show, don't 'get' what is happening, even seeing the clear still-shots) and
    a general idea of how they look in-space - if they really need to see clarity, then we send them a DVD with hi-res video.

    Dig?

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