test petterns needed

[keeperx]

I have ilda and laser media..

i need more patterns

[gottaluvlasers]

do you have any patterns? i have the standards. want those? they should be up on the server here though also.

-Marc

[loopee]

I just had a look on the ftp and I couldn't find any

I thought someone posted some a while ago

I'm downloading some shows at the moment but I was going to create a directory and download the ones that I have into it once the download is finished

Troy

[loopee]

Hey keeperx

I've just uploaded them to the FTP, under Test Patterns

The folder contains:

All Colours Sharp Dots.ild
Blanking Shift.ild
Cray Scale Test.ild
Dark Colours Test.ild
Grid Test.ild
ILDA12K.ild
ILDA30K.ild
Lasermedia.ild
Light Colours Test.ild
Medium Colours Test.ild
Orientation.ild
Quadrature.ild
testpat.ild

[keeperx]

awesome..thnx

[Pangolin]

Blanking Shift.ild
Cray Scale Test.ild
Dark Colours Test.ild
Grid Test.ild
Light Colours Test.ild
Medium Colours Test.ild
Orientation.ild
Quadrature.ild

I guess someone exported our test patterns to ILDA format. On a theoretical basis, they are covered by our license agreement but... in the interest of community you guys can use them. Just remember who created them .

Bill

[loopee]

Sorry Bill

These files were posted on here some time ago as a zip file.

I didn't realise that they fell under patent, I also didn't realise you could export them out of LD2000 (but I suppose it is just a frame somewhere in a directory)

Since you have basically given us permission to use them, would you prefer that I zip them up with a text file giving credit to Pangolin for the frames that you listed.


Troy

[keeperx]

you cant patent a Quadrature Square wave..

[Zoof]

nope, but they have an author and fall under copyright protection

[Pangolin]

Sorry Bill

These files were posted on here some time ago as a zip file.

Not a big problem Loopee. I guess somehow they seemed to fall into the public domain.

And of course, there is no "patent" in these images. There is a copyright, but... its a few images and they are of a kind of generic nature.

I just wanted everyone to know where they came from. And I won't bore anyone online here, but there is a story behind each one of those paterns, including the quadrature squarewave. For example, why is the quadrature squarewave the size that it is, and drawn in the direction that it is? Within the context of the "scantsts.ldb" file where these images came from, that question could be answered.

I also didn't realise you could export them out of LD2000 (but I suppose it is just a frame somewhere in a directory)

Most of our frames you can't export any more (we stopped trusting that people would follow our license agreement... got any idea why? ) but we didn't secure every single frame in the library.

Since you have basically given us permission to use them, would you prefer that I zip them up with a text file giving credit to Pangolin for the frames that you listed.

It's a generous gesture and I appreciate you wanting to make it right, rather than ramble on about how this can't be copyrighted, blah blah blah...

What I think is in order, and what I have asked for from Joachim Mueller (who also seemed to have these same files) is something called a "Proprietary rights notice". This is pretty simple statement like: "Test patterns copyright (c) Pangolin Laser Systems, Inc. Used with permission.". That's a pretty standard thing that we do with people (for example, including Joachim Mueller) who use some of our frames and web images and such.

I don't want to be an asshole about it. I just want people to realize that all things came from somewhere. They originated with some individual person. I made some of those patterns. Patrick Murphy made others. For some of them, I made them and then Patrick enhanced them, etc. These things didn't come from outer space . I think there is nothing wrong with giving credit where credit is due. You will notice that there is a STRONG tendency for us to do this -- which is why, for example, the names of the software authors (the people themselves) appear in the ABOUT box of our products, and why we have a kind of "hall of fame" in certain other about boxes, and why we include a text file with every show we distribute.

Bill