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    Default Servos for lumia and grating wheels...

    Having recently started experimenting with the idea of DMX-controlled servos for grating and lumia effects, I decided to check out a modifed hobby servo available from a company called Parallax here in the U.S., which specializes in microcontrollers and related components for robotics and other electronics applications. One of the items they sell is a modified standard Futaba hobby servo, that has been adapted for continuous rotation operation.

    They work great, and inexpensive, too!!

    http://www.parallax.com/Store/Access...%2cProductName

    Since I already have a Northlight DMX servo controller currently in use on my "Jolly Green Poly Slab" experiment, I decided to give one of the Parallax servos a "spin".

    http://photonlexicon.com/forums/show...53&postcount=1),

    (Note - Having just read Dave's post about the DMX servo controller they're offering at LaserShow Parts, I suspect their board may offer finer low-speed control. I might have to check that out...)

    http://photonlexicon.com/forums/show...79&postcount=1

    Anyway, using my existing DMX servo controller, the Parallax servo, and DMX capabilities of my Pangolin QM2000.net and the QM_DMX console applet, here's my results:

    DMX setting of 146 = servo stopped. Solid. No jitter, no nothing!!

    DMX settings of 147 to 255 = counterclockwise rotation, with servo speed increasing as DMX value increases.

    DMX settings of 145 to 0 = clockwise rotation, with servo speed increasing as the DMX value decreases.

    Slowest possible rotation settings are at DMX values 145 and 147. At these settings, the servo rotates at a consistent 3 1/4 RPM (I can live with that!! )

    Fastest possible rotation settings are at DMX values of 0 and 255. At these settings, the servo rotates at a consistent 50 RPM.

    So, there you go - cheap, reliable motors for lumia and grating effects wheels that require continuous, variable rotation! Adding a wheel to the servo is easy, too - a dab of silicon adhesive will easily attach just about any glass or plastic wheel or rod to the nylon output wheel of the servo! With a multi-channel DMX controller board, a couple of Parallax continuous rotation servos for the wheels, and a few standard servos to work the non-rotating optics, you could add quite an effects setup to the projector for very little investment!

    I hope to test my "lumia wheel" with one of these later this evening.
    In the interim, here's the required photo.

    Look - it's a servo!! :
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    Last edited by Stuka; 02-21-2009 at 10:28.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuka View Post
    One of the items they sell is a modified standard Futaba hobby servo, that has been adapted for continuous rotation operation.

    There are several sites showing how to mod servos that y'all may already have too.

    http://www.seattlerobotics.org/guide/servohack.html

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    That works, too!

    Although I figure I personally have saved myself a lot of grief - and sliced fingertips - by just buying the ones that were already pre-modded!!
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    Interesting Randy,

    Whilst i have read somewhere about people modding servos, it must have gone in one ear and out the other, as I didn't realize the mod gave speed control
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    Hey Randy,
    Thanks for all the great info- I am definitely going to check some of this stuff out!
    -Mike


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    Slowest possible rotation settings are at DMX values 145 and 147. At these settings, the servo rotates at a consistent 3 1/4 RPM (I can live with that!! )


    Hey Randy,

    Can you decrease the supply voltage to the controller to reduce the speed any further?

    Mark

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    Hey guys- on the topic of rotation speed, you could also try this (it worked for me). I used some spare RC car gears to mount my motor to the rest of my drive train. I used this arrangement to help solidify the mounting of the motor to the chains & sprockets, but a side effect was a reduction in speed by a factor of like 3x slower.
    -Mike
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    Cool gear train you're using in your projector, Mike!!

    Mark -

    I haven't tinkered around with the board settings yet, but my gut feeling is servo supply voltage may not have a huge impact (could be wrong on that - certainly wouldn't be the first time!! ) These boards actually use a separate supply voltage for the board itself (8 to 12 volts) and a 4-6 volt input for the servos

    One thing that I might play with is the adjustable pulse width setting - mine is set at the max range to give me full travel for my Poly-20 wheel. Since it appears that travel range for a standard servo = travel speed for a continuous rotation servo, dropping the pulse width might slow down the rotation speed - but again, I might be smokin' crack with my untested assumptions !

    The only drawback is the pulse width setting is applied to each servo on a multi-channel board; so, if dropping the pulse width does slow the board down, you might be giving up range of motion on all the channels.

    More experimenting to come!

    Randy
    Last edited by Stuka; 02-21-2009 at 19:22.
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    Hey Randy,
    The gears were leftovers from a swap I did on an RC car to change the drive ratio- probably 15 years ago or so. That is why I very rarely throw ANYTHING away! Just about every other drawer in my house is a "junk drawer"- and this is an example of how I justify it
    -Mike


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    Quote Originally Posted by mikkojay View Post
    Hey Randy,
    The gears were leftovers from a swap I did on an RC car to change the drive ratio- probably 15 years ago or so. That is why I very rarely throw ANYTHING away! Just about every other drawer in my house is a "junk drawer"- and this is an example of how I justify it
    -Mike
    I hear ya'!!

    It's amazing the stuff I've wound up using over the last year or two, that previously just took up space and collected dust for the last 5 or 10 years! Of course, everything I used has been replaced several times over by spare optics, diodes, etc., etc., etc., ....
    RR

    Metrologic HeNe 3.3mw Modulated laser, 2 Radio Shack motors, and a broken mirror.
    1979.
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