CDRH Certified Projector Case

[LaserGuy216]

Yeah thats right Up for grabs is a OneStopLaserShop Made CDRH Certified Projector Case!! The Beam Table is a 20” x 30” x 12” black anodized aluminum rectangular box. Both upper and lower are milled flat 1/4” thick, drilled & tapped every square inch for 1/4 - 20 breadboards.

Retail Price Around $2500

Lets Start Bidding members, best Price Takes it

[drlava]

that's a nice case. What's it's weight? and.. what exactly does it mean for a case to be CDRH Certified - doesn't it need to be re-certified when the guts are installed?

[platinum]

. . .what exactly does it mean for a case to be CDRH Certified - doesn't it need to be re-certified when the guts are installed?

I was discussing this exact question in regards to these particular cases at SELEM and didn't come up with a conclusive answer.

I look forward to hearing how a case with two beam-tables, an IEC plug and a power switch can be "CDRH Certified" and what, exactly, that means.

-Jonathan

[jsalopeck]

http://www.onestoplasershop.com/enclosures.htm

good question on certification... this was from my former rgb projector that laserguy216 ripped apart and is offing pieces for me. This was certified in ohio for use at my club. This box came from onestop lasershop and was very expensive. It has many possibilities! It is actually quite light in weight for the size!!

[dream beamz]

There really is nothing better to use for a case nowadays. I use these for 3 of my premiere projectors

[carlos3621]

Hey ther Jim, did you still have the smaller one? or is that one gone also?

[jsalopeck]

Carlos: only one left...

Dream Beams: yes it is the same as the ones you have , or at least the ones you got from Introspective

[gottaluvlasers]

I was discussing this exact question in regards to these particular cases at SELEM and didn't come up with a conclusive answer.

I look forward to hearing how a case with two beam-tables, an IEC plug and a power switch can be "CDRH Certified" and what, exactly, that means.

-Jonathan

In order to have a laser projector varianced in the U.S it must in essence have 2 variances...

the projector itself...the bare metal box...(like pictured above) has to have a product report filed for it with the FDA//CDRH. When that is submitted, AND APPROVED it then has its own Accession number (or variance number) if my mempry serves me correctly, that case above has a variance number of 90V-0382.

In order for a "metal box" or Enclosure to be approved for laser show use, it must meet the criteria set forth in 21 CFR part 1040.

the highlights of that are...

-Proper labeling. (NOT just a danger laser sticker). there is specific labeling needed. specific wording needed. specific locations where labels need to be.
-Beam shutter
-interlock(s)
-Key operation

there is more, but those are a sampple. when you sell an enclosure, you also MUST supply the parts that are governed under that approved product rport.

in other words, if you sell an LT1000 case (one stop laser shop. the step down case from the one pictured above) that case MUST be sold and provided with the pieces that were idnetified in the product report that makes it an approved enclosure.

i.e.- the shutter, labels, key switch(es), directions and the reccomended laser(s) that should be used with that enclosure.

these days, CDRH approved enclosures probably have ANY laser (within obvious limits) reccomended to be used with its enclosure.

the original LT1000 variance from back in the 80's and 90's probably had about 5 or 6 lasers reccomended to be used with it. Now, the variance was ammended (i THINK it was ammended. i *may* be wrong though) to incorporate almost ANY laser system.

once the enclosure itself is approved, THEN you apply for a variance to USE that enclosure as a laser light show projector and you apply for your variance to "vary" from the national limits of laser radiation. this is the 4 page variance application and the 15-20 page laser light show report.

whats happening these days, is everyone is buying the cheapo foriegn projectors from fleabay and not realizing that they arent and cant be varianced. well, ANYTIHNG can be varianced, it just depend son how much is needed ot make it compliant.

there is NO FOREIGN MANUFACTURER, i repeat....NO FORIEGN MANUFACTURER that has an approved variance for a laser enclosure in the U.S. KVANT, Arctos and some of the other *REAL* manufacturers making QUALITY equipment are probably the only projectors that would even have a chance of being approved here with very little effort.

so, ALL of these bullcrap "FDA approved Lasers" seen all over E-bay are quite simply, lying pieces of shite!!!

If you look at the prices for *JUST* a CDRH approved projector you will se a price tag of about $2500. well, do a product report...lol, you will see that $2500 is QUITE reasonable when you factor in time, effort, design and parts for a "CDRH APPROVED" projector!

Hope this helps!

-Marc

[platinum]

In order to have a laser projector varianced in the U.S it must in essence have 2 variances...

Thanks for the detailed info Marc!

Now, all I need to do is get *my* enclosure certified. I started a group here on PL geared towards just this sort of thing as I think it would be really cool if we could all get variances and do a "public" portion at SELEM next year and, of course, I can't use my new projector I built until it's all nice and legal.

-Jonathan

[carlos3621]

There probably wouldnt be so many "non certified" laserists, out there today, if they simplified the procedure to get certified.
If they simplified the procedure, and mostly everyone doing laser light shows got certified, the cdrh would have an easier time governing the industry, because they would know who is out there doing what and where and when.
The problem is..... they decided to stick with this 30 page laser product report, that is more geared towards laser medical devices, and not a simple laser projector. Alot of whats in the laser product report is highly technical, and thus difficult to complete, unless you actually build your own laser (which 99% of us dont) we all buy the lasers , and stick them inside the enclosures, or just buy a completed projector(like me)

Getting all the safety stuff installed is not a big deal, its all the paperwork that makes alot of people say "____ it" , and continue to operate illegally.

The fix?? personally, i think the cdrh should make a specific laser product report for laser projectors.