Wicked Lasers' new lasers

[Laserman532]

I hope they don't force a recall of all projectors due to safety problems.

The thought of poor Dan resoldering all those diodes back in doesn't bear thinking about....

i would ask for my money back because these things didnt put out any light.

[ElektroFreak]

Sorry Phillip, but I can't reveal my sources. I can tell you that I've been involved in this discussion with at least a dozen different people over the last 24 hours. That's as good as it gets. If you don't trust me, there's nothing I can say to change your mind that I haven't already said.
Casio has already been contacted by ILDA about Wicked Lasers. Several other agencies of the US Government are also involved now.

It is not time for us to get involved. Not by a long shot. The best thing we can do is to watch quietly from the sidelines and see what ends up happening.
He may end up having his money returned to him. As I said, no one has seen one of these pointers in the wild. Draw your own conclusions from that fact...
I agree. But various companies and/or agencies can still make life difficult for a lot of people if they choose. Tell me something: Could you defend yourself if a company decided to subpoena you? Do you have the money to hire a lawyer to defend yourself in court? No? Well, the same thing applies to a lot of people.

Now do you see why everyone is asking people to be calm about this?

In short, let's cool it and see what happens first, OK?

Adam

Now, while I agree that the risk is real and significant, and that these lasers used in a portable setup are pointless and highly dangerous, the biggest casualty of this will be that any blanket action taken by any of the people involved in this will very likely adversely affect our (hobbyists and some pros) ability to use these diodes as well.. The part that makes me feel all weird inside is that this is all speculation at this point. Any actions that have been taken and will be taken are based solely on speculation. I never like to hear about people freaking out, taking action and causing a ruckus all over mere speculation.. even if the danger is real. I'm speaking about the people who freaked out and went off and told every authority they could about this in the interest of blocking public access based on their speculation about the potential danger. I'm not talking about Casio's lawyers. It's better, IMO, to wait until a real problem presents itself in cases like this before freaking out and demanding action. Statistically, when talking about dangerous handheld devices (or dangerous devices in general) the people who use them irresponsibly are a small minority. In US law, this small minority is almost never enough to justify blanket action. This is no different.

[aktopjian]

Just had a friend leave me a voicemail today how he heard about this company wickedlasers on the radio and how they have a blue laser pointer that can blind you and burn you.

[liteglow]

Adam : I truly trust your rumors dont get me wrong....
And about your rumors, I HOPE they not only are true, but that something happed to WL also.

I feel that it will not be so fun to have a RGB 800mW laser anymore, when some stupid kid at the club is playing with a 1Watt blue laser toy !

[mixedgas]

Run a luminance histogram on the only existing Spyder III Arctic picture...

I'll leave the conclusions to you when you look at it.

Steve

[QUAZAR]

I'm more concerned about how many of them will show up at events I'm doing, and what the correct course of action should be.

Should it be to immediately shut down and contact the client and request the offending article/person be removed, and the show will recommence afterwards? Someone earlier raised the issue of burden of proof over whether it was the laser display that caused the injury, or the pointer, and this concerns me greatly....

If you were the LSO, it would be your duty to ensure there are no unsafe emissions. If that meant shutting down your laser and getting the promoter/security to eject someone then so be it. At bigger events/festivals this shouldnt be a problem. I think the same would apply at most clubs as well. If the event is so far underground that you dont have a contract, I would assume you havnt notified the council either.?

Anyway, if you turn your laser off, someone will soon want to know why. I expect they would comply quite swiftly as they have paid you and want their moneys worth.

[soforene]

Well, that things are already on eBay for cheap. Look this one for example. ....

I love the feedback quote relating to one disgruntled customer:
"Buyer returned a house brick instead of the laser system, police now involved"

Smashing !

[norty303]

If the event is so far underground that you dont have a contract, I would assume you havnt notified the council either.?

Of course not, it's not a requirement of the license if there is no license... Not sure how I'd know which council to contact anyway, when I might not find out the venue til a few hours b4 the gig...

People would still be within their rights to sue me though.

I expect they would comply quite swiftly as they have paid you and want their moneys worth.

You guys get paid in ADVANCE??? Oh, how the other half live....

[QUAZAR]

At underground events, I make it a point that it is cash on arrival. Or At the very least 50% on arrival. The laser gets switched on when I receive the other 50%.

I occaisonally make a point by sitting somewhere comfortable with a beer or two.

They soon come over with a handfull of door takings.

[Laserman532]

i found this thread interesting

http://laserpointerforums.com/f65/wi...-51554-42.html

especially the last few pages...sounds like the pointer crowd are getting a tad concerned.