Should Laser Ben be allowed to continue as a member of this Forum?

[flecom]

Ban him!

I received a different laser from what he advertised

same here, I have been trying to let him make things right but I am convinced he has no interest in doing so, I sent a pm to him several days ago, and another one yesterday hoping to solicit a response, but no luck

so you win ben, I give up...

background info... I purchased a "400+ 475nm laserwave" from krazer here

http://www.photonlexicon.com/forums/...ead.php?t=8879

who traded laser ben for it... here is laser bens original ad:

http://www.photonlexicon.com/forums/...ead.php?t=8672

thread about the trade, no reference to the power level

http://www.photonlexicon.com/forums/...ghlight=bridge

yet when I asked Bridge about it, he told me he traded ben a 250mw 473... ok so I need a power meter, who do you go to for power meters? laser ben... so i decided to try and see if he was trustworthy and purchased a scientech lpm from him...

the meter came damaged (fuse holder was destroyed) I informed him of the damage which I repaired and told him not to worry about it (although this also got no response)... my concern was this...

here is my 300mw 532nm laserwave



and here is the 250mw 473nm laserwave that laserben originally advertised as a 400+mw module...



about 335mw... and regardless of its output power, its still a 250mw laserwave, meaning I paid about $3000 in cash and trades for a $2050 laser...

if thats not the definition of getting ripped off I dont know what is

[Laser Ben]

Haven't we been over this one?

When the laser left my hands, it was doing around 450mW, I forget the exact number. I traded it to Krazer who was happy with it, I believe he measured it and confirmed. He traded/sold it to you as a 400mW unit. Somehow, either it was damages in shipping, the meter is wrong, or the laser is dying, it lost power between Krazer and your ends. You should be dealing with Krazer on the issue. It seems unlikely that it would drop from 450mW to 335mW that quickly.

same here, I have been trying to let him make things right but I am convinced he has no interest in doing so, I sent a pm to him several days ago, and another one yesterday hoping to solicit a response, but no luck

Really? You sent me a PM yesterday, could you quote it? Last one I have from you is on the 16th.

[flecom]

I sent you this on 11/17

hey just letting you know that I got the meter last week... apparently somehow during shipping something smashed into the fuse holder (maybe the head?) and exploded it and the fuse but I replaced it with a similar one and it seems to be working fine.... honestly the whole thing was packed so well I was really surprised to find it damaged since the box also seemed fine... but whatever, simple fix, no harm done...

i tested it out this weekend... here is the "300mW" 532nm laserwave I purchased from sbk



seems to be just a hair under .5w

and here is the "400mW-450mW" 473nm laserwave I purchased from krazer after you sold it to him...



seems to be around 335mW

I let both lasers warm up for about 15 mins... the green drifted back and forth a lot during the initial warm up, and finally settled around 500mW and the blue drifted a little but finally settled between 320 and 350mW

also note that I tried it with the original Chinese switcher it came with and it was doing about the same power just to make sure it wasnt a power supply issue (I'm using a 5v Lambda switcher to power the lasers on my table that it adjusted to exactly 5.00v +/- about .02v according to my fluke volt meter and how the lasers are being modulated, not a fan of Chinese switchers personally)

[flecom]

also the point is, your original ad conveniently failed to state it was a 250mw laser

so then you ripped off Krazer which passed it on to me... presumably unknowingly

and if something did happen to the laser at some point, guess what, laserwave is going to replace it with another 250mw laser, because thats what it was! not a 400mw laser