Hazer Recommendation?

[Bradfo69]

I would love to do DF's, but with outside conditions, they would probably be a waste of money.

Plus, they would need to run constantly which is not recommended. I used them in a tent for an outside wedding and worried the entire time since they ran for about 20 minutes.

And I agree with Frank.... the output is what matters most. I don't necessarily care if it's oil, water, or papaya juice.... it's the performance and output that matters most, to me anyway.

[dnar]

Plus, they would need to run constantly which is not recommended. I used them in a tent for an outside wedding and worried the entire time since they ran for about 20 minutes.

And I agree with Frank.... the output is what matters most. I don't necessarily care if it's oil, water, or papaya juice.... it's the performance and output that matters most, to me anyway.

How does papaya juice perform?

[norty303]

And I agree with Frank.... the output is what matters most. I don't necessarily care if it's oil, water, or papaya juice.... it's the performance and output that matters most, to me anyway.

If that is the case, and Fle's statement was that oil is 'best' in terms of output, why were you looking at water based hazers recently?

And to be fair, what do we mean by 'ouput'? I'm assuming Fle is talking about 'output' = quality of haze in the room.
But with an outdoor show, 'output' could be the rate at which the unit can keep up with atmospheric conditions (wind), in which case we're not really talking about quality of haze, just the ability to throw it out quickly/thickly enough. Quality takes a back seat there, you're often just happy to have 'some' atmosphere where the beams are pointing.

And so I go back to my original question, if oil is 'best', why are some people using 'not' oil?

Personally, I look at portability, reliability and running costs, and availability of spares as other variables. No use having the best quality fog in the world if its never working and parts are a bugger to source, or you never take it out on jobs because its too cumbersome.

[Bradfo69]

I didn't see where he said oil was best though.... unless I missed it.
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I think our interpretation of "output" is what you described. The quality of haze in the room and how long it lasts. I happen to like DF-50's but, I continue to hear a lot of good things about things like the Pea Souper, the Tour Hazer and other models and would like to see (for my own purposes) how they compare to the DF-50. I may jump on that same bandwagon once I see and use one and I don't necessarily care what the fluid is. Water vs. oil based (or papaya juice)
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I've messed around with a number of foggers and hazers as many of us have and I see your point regarding portability, running costs and so forth though, being part of the equation. I often look more at the cost of the consumables versus the cost of a unit. (particularly with printers.) but, I don't mind paying more for better fluid if it produces a better haze.

[norty303]

I didn't see where he said oil was best though.... unless I missed it.

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say what you will but the output is what matters and oil still gives you better output imho

And the rest ensued from there....

[carlos3621]

say what you will but the output is what matters and oil still gives you better output imho

oh yes, I forgot to mention also,
side by side comparison: the Radiance hazer BLOWS AWAY the DF50 in terms of OUTPUT.
have you even compared them side by side ? or are you just blowing smoke? pun intended.

[flecom]

quantity or quality? the DF50 is obviously not for outdoor shows, for indoor stuff the DF50 stuff hangs a LONG time, which means I need to run it less, which makes it very cheap to run

I have not seen a Radiance, when have I said I have?

[CountFunkula]

How does papaya juice perform?

...nice and thick if you leave in the pulp!

[norty303]

I have not seen a Radiance, when have I said I have?

I suppose the point he's making is that if you haven't seen the Radiance, then your view that oil is best for 'output' may be based on limited experience.

[flecom]

you guys are impossible lol

just buy a radiance and a DF50, and every other hazer mentioned for good measure, done