Guns n' Lasers...

[James Lehman]

I don't know what the big deal is anyway. It's not like I have to shoot someone every day. It's really only about six or eight people a month for me, tops.

James.

[mixedgas]

[QUOTE=tocket;75985]I don't quite understand the comparison either. The very purpose of a gun is to kill or injure another person or animal. If used properly, it can (and will) do exactly this. Lasers on the other hand can be used for many things but, to the best of my knowledge, there exist no lasers designed to harm other people (yet). It is very possible to be injured by lasers, but that only means it was used improperly.

China has deployed blinding laser weapons since 1990 or so. Sadam tried to use yags for area defense by blinding pilots. Someone in serbia tried a doubled yag on US helicopters.
There was a story a while back about gangs in the Phillipeans using a 200 mW yag for attempting to blind rivals... The list goes on and on. COIL has been public since 1989. The Brits put argons on ships in the Falklands to attempt to blind or dazzle. Misuse of YAG rangefinders is documented. Many armies have lasers designed to blind EO devices used by opponents. The famous russian ship that supposedly aimed a pulsed yag at a US helicopter off canada.....

The list gets longer...

Steve

[Stuka]

LOL please come and steal my VCR. here.... take two
leave everything else alone though or there will be consequences.

Any good tapes to go with them?

[Stuka]

[quote=mixedgas;76172]

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Sadam tried to use yags for area defense by blinding pilots. ...
The list gets longer...

Steve

Yep - I'll sign a sworn statement to THAT one!! (and so did the East Germans / Soviets during the "Cold War" days along the German borders!)

[Stuka]

I don't know what the big deal is anyway. It's not like I have to shoot someone every day. It's really only about six or eight people a month for me, tops.

James.

And I bet you walk around town wearing a big black hat, sporting a couple of custom hair-trigger six-shooters! LOL!

James Lehman, a.k.a. - "Jimmy the Kid"...

[The_Doctor]

China has deployed blinding laser weapons since 1990 or so. Sadam tried to use yags for area defense by blinding pilots. Someone in serbia tried a doubled yag on US helicopters.
There was a story a while back about gangs in the Phillipeans using a 200 mW yag for attempting to blind rivals... The list goes on and on. COIL has been public since 1989. The Brits put argons on ships in the Falklands to attempt to blind or dazzle. Misuse of YAG rangefinders is documented. Many armies have lasers designed to blind EO devices used by opponents. The famous russian ship that supposedly aimed a pulsed yag at a US helicopter off canada.....

The list gets longer...

Steve

Exactly. The comparison is obvious. One shoots particles of matter, the other shoots particles of energy. How that gets applied is up to the applier, but it's obvious that both will be explored as weapons (devices to hurl projectiles have just been around longer so the design is more refined, but not all of them are meant to kill, there are plenty designed to fire nails into wood). If people who want to protect their right to use lasers don't accept all the similarites and all the differences, they will appear to have undermined their understanding, their responsibility for propagating any form of the technology, and any chance to form a coherent argument in its defence, or at least their use of it.

Desiring and aquiring a laser for its dangerous beauty one moment then asserting it's total safety the next could be seen as hypocritical too. That trap's easier to fall into than it looks, and lurks in some of the most cautious argument.

[Stuka]

This pretty much sums up my train of thought.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hM3j34i81Fk

A fine depiction of the typical American male! LOL!!

[mccarrot]

You guys in the Netherlands kick out some kick-ass laser shows, but you still worry about someone stealing a VCR?
Dudes - VCR's are SO last century!!!

Hahaha, no we dont have VCR's anymore....

But on the other hand Bluray is still not a mainstream product here. there are still more DVD sold compared to Blu-ray.

Is anyone of you comming to the Pangolin meeting held in Amsterdam this year?

[mixedgas]

While I laugh at American Dad, they do take it a little too far sometimes, so does Family Guy, and so does SouthparkIf those and CSI-Whatever are the best depictions of Americans that others see, we're in trouble.

BTW, hat ever happened to the guys who were gonna code the Southpark to Laser Converter?




Steve

[Stuka]

While I laugh at American Dad, they do take it a little too far sometimes, so does Family Guy, and so does SouthparkIf those and CSI-Whatever are the best depictions of Americans that others see, we're in trouble.

BTW, hat ever happened to the guys who were gonna code the Southpark to Laser Converter?




Steve

WHAT!!

You mean what we see on TV and in the movies is NOT an accurate depiction of how most of us Americans live

Please, say it isn't so, Obi-Wan!!

I would like to hear more about a Southpark to Laser conversion -
sounds like an opportunity for all KINDS of politically-incorrect laser shows!!