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    Could someone give me the rundown on what factors make 532nm lasers nice and collimated 1-.5 mrad as compared to those like the laserscope which can only be collimated to 8-10 mrad. why do the lower power ones like 300mw dpss lasers stay nice and collimated, but it seems like when you get into watts of green its not possible to keep it nice and collimated. Is it something to do with the optics, the yag rod itself, or the pump source? As an example, is it not possible to just move the optics around and realign them, on the laserscope to get a better beam divergence? Why cant the higher power lasers still keep the small beam diameter of the lower power ones?

    PS. when I say collimated I mean the laser at it lowest divergence, Also I do understand that if you up collimate the beam it will have a 1:1 lower divergence compared to the beam diameter change. (10x beam expander : 10x lower divergence I am pretty sure, I think)

    Any knowlege of this subject will be greatly appreciated.

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    There are a huge number of factors that differentiate small 532nm from large 532nm lasers. One of the primary differences is the active area of the medium changes with the size increases of the materials used. This can cause all kinds of artifacts in the beam due to generally thermal issues (lensing and other issues). The larger the beam due to active area the greater the probability of higher order transverse modes. If the 532nm is generated from YAG and not YVO4 polarization goes out the window (which may or may not have an impact on your use). Furthermore, medical lasers are usually fiber delivered so divergence is not a critical issue whereas your typical 300mW 532nm system is free space. Power scales quite well in YAG or YVO4 but beam characteristics do not (within reason). An extremely well engineered, high powered 532nm laser system can have great beam characteristics but is exceedingly expensive. Taming a high powered 532nm beam usually requires intercavity devices such as brewster plates, apertures, and non linear resonators. Keep in mind that any irregularities generally get amplified as the laser scales.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frothychimp View Post
    There are a huge number of factors that differentiate small 532nm from large 532nm lasers. One of the primary differences is the active area of the medium changes with the size increases of the materials used. This can cause all kinds of artifacts in the beam due to generally thermal issues (lensing and other issues). The larger the beam due to active area the greater the probability of higher order transverse modes. If the 532nm is generated from YAG and not YVO4 polarization goes out the window (which may or may not have an impact on your use). Furthermore, medical lasers are usually fiber delivered so divergence is not a critical issue whereas your typical 300mW 532nm system is free space. Power scales quite well in YAG or YVO4 but beam characteristics do not (within reason). An extremely well engineered, high powered 532nm laser system can have great beam characteristics but is exceedingly expensive. Taming a high powered 532nm beam usually requires intercavity devices such as brewster plates, apertures, and non linear resonators. Keep in mind that any irregularities generally get amplified as the laser scales.
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    you guys nailed it. Intracavity aperture works for making some yags better mode, you sacrifice power, but the laserscopes by design are multimode. I cant add anything to above post except "ya gotta learn to live with it"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laserman532 View Post
    you guys nailed it. Intracavity aperture works for making some yags better mode, you sacrifice power, but the laserscopes by design are multimode. I cant add anything to above post except "ya gotta learn to live with it"


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    damn, the small size of that power meter makes me look...large...

    It says 42.7 watts!!!! NICE~!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GooeyGus View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by laserman532 View Post
    damn, the small size of that power meter makes me look...large...

    It says 42.7 watts!!!! Nice~!!!
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    uh?!? no goggles???

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