Pesident Clinton

[ghosttrain]

There's no need for sextuple posting, do you not see the "EDIT" button on your post?

you guys don't realize...I have more material stating the wrong government does that you do showing government doing right things...therefore...I win

No you don't, because

1) The equation of "no government = good" isn't proven by "bad things done by government > good things done by government".
You first need to show how society will function with no government. I've given numerous reasons why it won't work and will the catastrophic, numerous times, you have ignored them.

2) You are unable to differentiate between the concept of a government and a real world example of a government, the USA fed gov. No matter how much info you gather on the US gov, you still have the concept of a government as well as all the other governments of the world you need to explain why are inherently bad or unnecessary. Otherwise you can't justify why abolition is the only option, not fixing.

3) We were never arguing government does more good than harm, so you don't "win" even in this sense.

Yeah, clearly Adam dosnt get it...He just wants to dance, government says no... You dance, you go to a rape cage and we extort money out of you!

Yeah clearly he doesn't, he's been in Iraq and seen what a corrupt government does and concluded that government should be abolished, a false dilemma. And also like you naively assuming everything will fall into place when government is gone, people will "behave" (whatever that means when you don't have universal laws) and voluntarily donate when others need it.

Again, yet to see answers to my arguments.

This bitching and it does go both ways does not answer any questions.

As if Laserman has not been doing everything but answering questions. Spamming photos and chanting statements, how do you expect us to communicate with such a person? It's like trying to negotiate with a little kid.

[logsquared]

This bitching and it does go both ways does not answer any questions.

It's boring.

There is an interesting article in the WSJ about the delegate commitment. This has only become an issue, now that both parties want to ignore the voters. The mistake is to get into the weeds to decide who is winning "the game". It isn't a game. Sorry Rush.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/fight-ov...ies-1461023856

You can get the full article through Drudge without signing in.

This in my opinion exemplifies the fact that the "two party rule" is a joke. Both "sides" are a scam IMHO. If Trump really had any "balls" he would have ran as an independent. Any of Trumps positive attributes are, in my opinion, negated by the fact he aligned himself with the republicans.

[ghosttrain]

If Trump really had any "balls" he would have ran as an independent.

You don't need balls for that, you need to not be suicidal. Who was the last independent to be elected a US president?
From his speeches so far it's clear how he considers both parties a joke. And republicans have responded accordingly. The only reason he's not an independent is because he hasn't declared he is, because he isn't stupid.

[Laserman532]

ghosttrain - I will tell you why anarchy will fail - EVERY TIME - It has a lot to do with TITS...GOD FORBID...if everyone in the US woke up tomorrow morning and decided to follow my lead and not to vote...the federal government would shut down, everyone from the president down to the least sexually abused page would be UN-EMPLOYEED, There would be no one to wage wars and to plan the new fighter jet for the year 2050. Every single "military person" would loose their tittie. Which means EVERY SINGLE government contractor that makes machines of war would go bankrupt and lay off all their workers...for you slaves that don't work for government (the big tit) would have your 401K's destroyed your entire live savings would be wiped out. The US would be in CHAOS because there is no DADDY to take care of us. I could carry this thought on until my fingers bleed from typing, but I won't. Without government, there would be no wars, with no wars there would be no jobs, with no jobs there would be no economy, with no economy life would be bleak. Without government people would have to take care of themselves.

So yes you are right, the anarchy model WILL NOT WORK except at the individual level - anarchy works well in my own mind - I don't play your game...and yes Planters...it is a game, and you aren't playing it...you are being played...

What we need is a government with more tits!

[ghosttrain]

Without government, there would be no wars

Wrong from the very start.

with no wars there would be no jobs

Because everyone in US works for MIC... not!

Without government people would have to take care of themselves.

Which they can't! Damn, what is so hard to understand in this?? People can't protect themselves from other people. In every place in the world in every time period when there is no order (laws/government), people rape and kill each other, people form tribes and have tribe wars, people enslave each other. Why? Because not everyone but generally people suck. Those original "7 things" you linked to won't work with our species, it has actually been demonstrated in history. For the exact same reason communism hasn't worked.

So yes you are right, the anarchy model WILL NOT WORK except at the individual level

There is no individual level up for discussion when there is a non functional societal level. How is this hard to understand?

anarchy works well in my own mind

Anarchism is a political ideology, it is not a state of mind. Even after quoting/linking/posting about anarchism as a political ideology and other anarchists you don't get this?

[Laserman532]

LOLOLOL - you guys have to admit...we are fucked...

https://www.facebook.com/WTFRLY/vide...68246/?fref=nf

[Laserman532]

Wrong from the very start.


Because everyone in US works for MIC... not!






Which they can't! Damn, what is so hard to understand in this?? People can't protect themselves from other people. In every place in the world in every time period when there is no order (laws/government), people rape and kill each other, people form tribes and have tribe wars, people enslave each other. Why? Because not everyone but generally people suck. Those original "7 things" you linked to won't work with our species, it has actually been demonstrated in history. For the exact same reason communism hasn't worked.


There is no individual level up for discussion when there is a non functional societal level. How is this hard to understand?


Anarchism is a political ideology, it is not a state of mind. Even after quoting/linking/posting about anarchism as a political ideology and other anarchists you don't get this?

you just like to argue - GO VOTE! you pick apart every fucking word - looking for "loopholes" in law...I will leave it at FUCK YOU!

I win, because I don't play your game - GO VOTE or Pray if it makes you feel better!

[ghosttrain]

And who's closing their ears and going "LA LA LA" now?

[Laserman532]

And who's closing their ears and going "LA LA LA" now?

LOLOL - GO VOTE sweetheart! I certainly won't listen to you!

[Laserman532]

Geeeee, now where have I seen this before...Golly gee willicars...Does this ring a bell ghosttrain?

"You'd think US citizens would learn after Vietnam and every other war after that to not only not trust the government but also the media. When you do, it becomes very suspicious why every media agency go out of their way to basically attack a presidential nominee every chance they get."