Wicked Lasers' new lasers

[john lawson]

did I say I gave my kids a high powered pointer "no"
they have a 5 mW leadlight each and a low powered bluray each that i had made them -they only use them when I am home with me

I bought the 808 pointer for the hell of it and used it twice I do not like it its dangerous

I didn't post on this thread toget into a fight with anyone I'm just saying to inform and be carefull owning a pointer doesn't condemn your soul to hell you know

[ElektroFreak]

@John: Don't bother explaining to McCarrot. He thinks he's Josef Stalin, but don't worry, he can't come kill your family and rape your dog.. He's just a troll, looking for a reaction. That's the only excuse for carrying this on and on like he's been doing. He just keeps saying the same thing, over and over and over ad nauseum.

@McCarrot: Are you ever going to give anyone else some credit as being halfway intelligent, or do you really think you're the only one on earth with any common sense?

Oh, and both your "poll" questions are fully loaded, buddy. You must really think "we're" retarded to assume "we" wouldn't notice..

[mccarrot]

New about the laserpointer incident in Belgium:

http://www.photonlexicon.com/forums/...ead.php?t=8759

[lasersbee]

Yeah... I read it.... so...

A few Morons in Belgium with lasers who thought they were "cool" caused
injuries to some one else...

Why didn't the nightclub check the entering public for Laser Pointers like they
do for Guns and Knives...

What are you trying to say... It is my fault because I own Laser Pointers..?????

You are still trolling.... it's obvious when I see your Trolling Sig..

Jerry

[mccarrot]

Next time the laseroperator cannot proof the damage is done by a pointer and our laser industry will come in the spotlights again.

[buffo]

Next time the laseroperator cannot proof the damage is done by a pointer and our laser industry will come in the spotlights again.

The laser show operator is already REQUIRED to be able to prove that the damage did not come from his equipment. That won't change if you ban pointers. Any operator who can't prove that his equipment is audience-safe has *NO* business performing a laser show. Period. Pointers don't even enter into the discussion.

Banning hand-held lasers is foolhearty. What is the difference between a fully-compliant lab laser running off a car battery and a "hot" laser pointer? Physical size? Or the fact that the laser pointer lacks a few safety features that the lab laser has? What if I shrink the size of the lab module and the battery? Or, indeed, what if I make a pointer that has all the same safety features of a lab module? Do you see how absurd this is?

What are you going to do? Dictate that all lab modules be above a certain size? Outlaw batteries as a power source? Come on - be serious here!

The problem with high powered, battery operated, hand held lasers is that they are percieved as toys by some people. Manufacturers and professional laserists should be working together to change this perception. Public education, coupled with strict enforcement of innapropriate laser use (such as hitting athletes in the eyes at sporting events, or flashing a laser at an aircraft) will go a long way towards solving this problem. Banning hand-held lasers will not.

Adam

[dream beamz]

Why didn't the nightclub check the entering public for Laser Pointers like they
do for Guns and Knives...

No arguing here, just saying.......... have you been to a music festival lately. You cannot check everyone for a pointer that can easily be concealed, especially on a woman. It would make your ticket price sky rocket from having to hire the extra security

[wolfblue]

What are you going to do? Dictate that all lab modules be above a certain size? Outlaw batteries as a power source? Come on - be serious here!

The problem with high powered, battery operated, hand held lasers is that they are perceived as toys by some people.

Adam

We could never educate everybody. A new crop of the unknowing is created everyday. My initial idea would be to make owning one legal, and selling one illegal. The idea that if you can build it, you'll know how not to use it. But you can always get it from another country. And frankly, I'm glad I can get a "LED light pen" from another country. I just don't want you to have one. Just kidding, I dont want the guy in a you tube video to have one. Until he knows he could hurt somebody.

--John

[mccarrot]

The laser show operator is already REQUIRED to be able to prove that the damage did not come from his equipment. That won't change if you ban pointers. Any operator who can't prove that his equipment is audience-safe has *NO* business performing a laser show. Period. Pointers don't even enter into the discussion.

Banning hand-held lasers is foolhearty. What is the difference between a fully-compliant lab laser running off a car battery and a "hot" laser pointer? Physical size? Or the fact that the laser pointer lacks a few safety features that the lab laser has? What if I shrink the size of the lab module and the battery? Or, indeed, what if I make a pointer that has all the same safety features of a lab module? Do you see how absurd this is?

Adam

If there where no eyewitnesses seeing people with pointers, he will had it much more difficult convincing the police. rules are different here in NL and belguim.

Also most High power pointer ARE already illegal (in europe at least) so I dont understand how it can be difficult as it allready hase been done.

My problem is people promoting the "illegal" high power pointers on forum like this threat.

As I said before, the government already take measures by making (most) pointers above 5mW illegal. (1mW in europe)
Now we can help by NOT writing reviews how good they burn, or how far they shoot. The less we talk about how nice they are, the less people will hopefully buy one.

I you want to own a high power pointer it's your decision, and I know (almost) everyone here will use it with great responsibility. but just dont talk about it how great they are because this will make other people buy them also.


(I'm sorry my reactions can look "strange and communistic" but I have problems expressing myself in english.)

[buffo]

We agree with you that promoting the sale of illegal laser pointers is bad.

The part where we disagree is over the sale of high-power, hand-held lasers that *are* legal. That is, the ones that comply with the International regulations (specifically, IEC 60825-1 or 21 CFR 1040.10 -.11) that govern these devices. Most people here agree that if the laser is compliant with the law, it's OK to sell it. You appear to disagree.

Answer me this question: From a LEGAL perspective, what is the difference between a 100 mw hand-held, battery-powered laser (that is fully compliant with all applicable regulations) and a 100 mw lab laser module that is running off the same batteries? You can hold both in your hand. Both have keyswitches and emission indicators. Both have laser safety labels. Both are fully compliant with government regulations. Both can also be misused by idiots. Yet you are seriously suggesting that because one comes in a rectangular package it should be legal, but the one in the cylindrical package should be illegal?

We are not advocating the sale of high power laser pointers. A laser pointer by definition does not have the safety features we're talking about. More importantly, it's illegal to sell pointers over 5 mW here in the US. But a properly certified, battery-powered, hand-held laser is not the same thing as a pointer, even though it may look similar. If you want to ban all hand-held lasers above 5 mW period, then you are looking at banning all kinds of equipment along with the illegal pointers.

Adam